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Mystery Maniacs Episode! In Podcast 264, Rick returns after three days. Johnie is a lot of things, but he’s not a donkey killer.
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What is Mystery Maniacs?
Mystery Maniacs Podcast is a comedy recap podcast dedicated to British Mystery Television. Formerly, Midsomer Maniacs podcast.
Mary, Mary, why you bugging? Hey, Maniacs.
Mark:Hey, Mystery Maniacs. Mystery Maniacs is a comedy recap podcast dedicated to mystery TV. Each week, we dig into an episode of the show including the murders, the mayhem, the loonies, and everything else that's on my t shirt today.
Sarah:Which is a t shirt from our from our store. It says the murders, the mayhem, the loonies, and everything else we love, and then has the Mystery Maniacs logo on it.
Mark:Available now at our shop.
Sarah:That's sharp. Yeah. Looking good. You always look good, though.
Mark:Thank you. I'm Mark.
Sarah:I'm Sarah. This is season ten episode six of Brokenwood Mysteries. Three gold leaves of Jesus. Jesus.
Mark:They walk so many fine lines in this episode and do not offend anybody, and that's impressive. Well, they couldn't call
Sarah:it the three gold leaves of Rick. No. But they, I mean, they could have. No. But it wouldn't have made sense to people.
Mark:Never mind the fact that Anglicans are really not relic people.
Sarah:So we'll get to that.
Mark:And if you ever wanna go down a rabbit hole, try to figure out what happened with the gifts that the supposed wise men brought the supposed Jesus. Because wow. Everything starts out with the bible doesn't really say what happens. So we've put this idea
Sarah:in have proposed. Yes. Before we dive in, this is a spoiler podcast. We are gonna ruin it. We're gonna tell you who the killer is in the three gold leaves of Jesus.
Sarah:Jesus. So if you haven't seen it, stop now. Go watch it and come back.
Mark:I will ruin it. Morris Dance. You notice, though, no no children ever Morris dance.
Sarah:That's not true. I have evidence of the opposite.
Mark:Okay.
Sarah:I'm frightened now. We don't share our, like, research with each other before we start
Mark:Nope.
Sarah:To keep it interesting. Yes. So you have no idea what I'm gonna talk about, and I have no idea what you're gonna talk about. It's Keeps it fresh. Keeps it fresh.
Sarah:Before we start, couple of things from this week. You've got book chapters coming out.
Mark:Yes. So if you've been following along, I'm releasing two cozy mystery novels as serials.
Sarah:Cozy's crazy.
Mark:You said that, but I have now 18 chapters in the box.
Sarah:No. I just think it's crazy to write two books at once.
Mark:Oh, don't think I would get muddled up in my brain. Never mind that one book is in one country and one Yeah. Is in another
Sarah:I just think I would get them all mixed up.
Mark:Anyway, the first paid chapters of those come out this week chapter four. If you wanna read the free stuff it's available on the preview for the Substack and the Patreon. That is all in the show notes or you can talk to me, but if you want to get the new chapters you gotta pay a little bit of money. But, and I'll announce this this week too, we should be able to pay for printed books that I will sign for everybody who has a paid membership.
Sarah:Awesome. Yes. When they're done.
Mark:When they're done. Which I think I will now finish before they catch up
Sarah:to me. That's good. That's good. Meanwhile, when you're not doing that, we've been watching some television. You know us.
Sarah:We kind of like some reality shows here and there, especially if they have any kind of mysterious element to them. And the second season of Million Dollar Secret has come out on Netflix. Yes. It's about a bunch of strangers in a house. One of them has a million dollars.
Sarah:The other ones are trying to figure out who has it and get them and vote them out of the house. And but the but the money moves around.
Mark:It's really hot potato with a million dollars.
Sarah:It's secret hot potato.
Mark:Secret hot potato.
Sarah:And Peter Safinovich, who was in A Midsummer, he was also the roommate in Shaun of the Dead. Yes. He's been in lots of things. He has
Mark:been both voice of excellent voice. He did the voice of Darth Maul.
Sarah:Yeah. I love his voice.
Mark:Yeah. He is a great
Sarah:He's the host of the show. He's the the the manor host, I guess, the hotel host, whatever.
Mark:And in a similar way
Sarah:It's really fun.
Mark:But different, he hams it up the same way that they do on traitors.
Sarah:Yeah. Kinda overly dramatic. Yep. It's on Netflix. So if you're looking for something to watch, I would encourage you to try it out.
Sarah:If you haven't seen the first season, go ahead and watch it too. They're similar enough that you're not gonna be confused or anything if you start with the second one but Yes.
Mark:They're good. Survivor 50 is on and we are mostly watching Brokenwood season 12 and releasing minis on it. The first two minis have been released.
Sarah:They're crazy.
Mark:And this week's episode is midnight in the garden.
Sarah:I love somebody commented on one of our mini posts on Instagram and said, I listened to this, then I wonder, did we watch the same show?
Mark:Believe you me. I also wondered the same thing.
Sarah:But now you gotta go watch it again to watch it like a maniac.
Mark:It is it is both a strange and one of my favorite things when there's a reference to one of our episodes in comments or in a post or something and I'm like,
Sarah:I have no idea what you're
Mark:talking about. No idea what you're talking about.
Sarah:That was a 100 episodes.
Mark:We have hundreds of hours of audio. But it's kind of remember it all.
Sarah:But Every once in a while, I come home, and hear my own voice echoing through the house and realize Mark is listening to one of our podcasts trying to refresh his memory of something that somebody has asked him about. It's really strange.
Mark:Very strange. You know, everybody has this and we had this at the very beginning, of course, that you don't like the sound of your own voice. But I am so completely used to it now.
Sarah:I still don't like it. Yeah. But I'm over it.
Mark:I'm just so completely over it.
Sarah:Yeah. But I'm glad that other people don't mind it because they listen. Hello, you. Listener, are you ready to talk about three gold leaves of Jesus?
Mark:Originally aired on the 06/03/2024, directed by Jacqueline Nairn and written by Tim Baum. I think this is actually a really good episode. I think I forgot how good it was, and I certainly forgot some of the people in it.
Sarah:It's very well structured. There are multiple kind of threads going on at the same time, but it's not confusing. Everything is kind of interconnected, and it all comes together. Yep. But there are definitely moments where you're like, I don't know what's going on.
Sarah:And then you're like, oh, okay. Now I get it. I get it.
Mark:And in the parlance, that's a tight episode. Like, is needed. Mhmm. Everything works. And when first introduced, you have no idea how it's gonna relate to everything.
Sarah:I disagree with that a little bit. Okay. Everything is not needed. Before we talk about the actual mystery of the episode, can we just talk about how Kristen is a total pain in the ass in this
Mark:episode? Kristen
Sarah:She doesn't need to be like that.
Mark:Is
Sarah:unprofessional. Unprofessional. Yep. Overly nosy, dramatic, a loose lip.
Mark:Yep. All those things.
Sarah:She goes into Mike's office to snoop.
Mark:Do not know.
Sarah:No. Don't do that. Nope. Then immediately runs off and tells Gina that Mike is leaving. She doesn't even know he's leaving.
Mark:No. She doesn't. I have in my notes several times, I have, why are you doing that, Kristen?
Sarah:Then she tells missus Baker and Trudy over here. It's like everybody knows. Everyone knows. She should be I mean, if it was the real world, she'd be reprimanded.
Mark:Like, okay. Mike should not Mike Mike is appearing to be overly secretive, which he's not.
Sarah:No. It's just none of their business.
Mark:Yes. It is none of her business. And I I love how Chalmers really tries to stress that with her.
Sarah:But when they're sitting across the desk for Mike and it comes out, he doesn't leave her to hang. Mhmm. He's like, we've noticed this you know, Chalmers says, we've noticed the the clues.
Mark:The level of unprofessionalism that Kristen shows, Chalmers shows all the professionals. Yeah. Yeah. He says he goes to her and says, don't do that. He says, you're a snoopy McSnooperson.
Sarah:Mhmm.
Mark:He doesn't go to Mike and say anything. He doesn't go to Hughes and say anything. No. He goes directly to the person he has a problem with.
Sarah:Thomas is very good at minding his own business He is. In general.
Mark:Exceptionally good at minding his own business.
Sarah:I do have to say, it must be nice that to be in a position where your boss just shows up once a year and begs you to take a promotion and a pay increase, and you have to, like, fight them off with the stick. I wish that happened to me.
Mark:No, sir. That doesn't happen with you?
Sarah:No. We insist that you take this much more bigger job that pays a whole lot more, and you get to travel and do exciting stuff. Are you sure you don't want it? No. I don't want it.
Sarah:Okay. To
Mark:play devil's advocate for a second, Mike should have told them that he does this on a regular basis at some other point. Yeah. Not in this moment.
Sarah:Right. Like, my ten years coming up. I'm sure Hughes is gonna show up and insist I take a promotion and go back to the city, and I'm gonna say no because I'm not interested. But, you know, But by not taking it, he's also limiting Kristen and Chalmers' careers too because Kristen can't get a promotion, can she, if he's there? Well, I get there are there are ranks between them, aren't there, that she could take?
Sarah:Possibly. But they're less likely to move her up because they don't need her to move up.
Mark:And they tend to move people when they move them up. Yeah. They tend to.
Sarah:You mean move them to a different station Yeah. Or But what do you know about New Zealand police? You've been researching British cops.
Mark:Yes. I know a lot about British cops.
Sarah:You don't know.
Mark:But
Sarah:Anyway, I just I just wanna shout at her the whole episode. Like, will you just stop? You're being annoying, Kristen. Stop it.
Mark:What it does is produce a fantastic cake. It does. It's the Gina cake.
Sarah:I think what bugs me most is it's not in her character. It's I think it's outside her character that she's so
Mark:I think they turned it up to 11 and they should have turned it up to eight.
Sarah:Yeah. Exactly. She should
Mark:have hesitated a bit more.
Sarah:Yeah. Yeah. And Hughes And felt bad.
Mark:The second Hughes appearance, I noticed this when I rewatched it. Hughes just drops out of the sky and goes, what are you doing, Kristen? Yeah. Like, Chalmers should be like, woah. Where did you come from?
Sarah:It's like he was ducking behind the counter at the front of the cop shop, and he just stood up. Hello. I'm here.
Mark:And it's funny
Sarah:Captain colonel Hughes. Because military.
Mark:In the last episode, I thought to myself, we have not seen Hughes.
Sarah:And just in time. Just when you miss him.
Mark:Just showed up out of nowhere.
Sarah:He appears. Yeah. And then you just wonder, with or without facial hair? What's he gonna have?
Mark:Will he have the stache? Won't he have
Sarah:the stash? Okay. That's enough kvetching about Kristen. Yes. We got it out of our system.
Sarah:Yes. Let's talk mummers. Not mummers.
Mark:I'm sorry.
Sarah:Dancers. I keep wanting to say plumber the mummer. No. But he's not a mummer. He's a Morris dancer.
Mark:He's a Morris dancer.
Sarah:Though the line between mummers and Morris dancing, it's really just about whether they sing or not. Yep. And how many animal costumes there are, but
Mark:that's a
Sarah:whole another story. Yep. Plummer is practicing his Morris dancing in the woods. His name is not Plummer.
Mark:His name is doctor Death Magnet, and he has the audacity to say in this episode, it's not every day you've that somebody dies at your feet. I'm like, for you, it is.
Sarah:Yeah. Really? My maybe not every day, but every episode he's in.
Mark:Yes. So in the first ten minutes of this episode, we have Jesus, Morris dancing, Hughes, and Christmas. Yep. It's fantastically shown. Absolutely doing great.
Sarah:Can I talk to
Mark:you about Morris Dancing? Yes. They seem to be a little more flamboyant with the Morris Dancing in New Zealand.
Sarah:No. No. I looked on
Mark:the on the New Zealand national Morris dancing page, and their costumes seem to be a bit more than the British ones.
Sarah:I'll tell you why they're less flamboyant.
Mark:What?
Sarah:Their Morris dancing has never included blackface.
Mark:Yes.
Sarah:Whereas in The UK, it has.
Mark:Yes. It has. We've talked about that before.
Sarah:It has in a Midsummer episode. Yes. So much so that it had a warning at the beginning. Yeah. There was offensive content in the episode.
Sarah:We've seen Morris dancing in four Midsummer episodes. Do you know can you name any of them off Okay. Your head?
Mark:The village one, the best village of the year one. No. No. The one
Sarah:The vill the one set in a village. Oh, that myth. The one where somebody dies. Oh.
Mark:I just
Sarah:I think there's a Barnaby
Mark:in it. I just watched it. It's a old Barnaby episode.
Sarah:I'll tell you. Okay. There are there are four midsummers with Morris. Faithful unto death, Blood Will Out, that's the one with the black face. Mhmm.
Sarah:Night of the Stag, the most troublesome Midsummer.
Mark:Troublesome Midsummer.
Sarah:And Judgment Day.
Mark:Yes. Judgment Day is the one I meant that has Simon Weston, who plays Marcus.
Sarah:There is an old Doctor Who episode that is probably my favorite instance of Morris dancing in I the did not know. It's a per tweet Doctor Who. It's one of the old ones Yes. Where the Morris dancers are evil.
Mark:Oh, that's fantastic.
Sarah:Like, when they start down the street, all the parents grab their kids and run and hide inside because they come down the street.
Mark:My first experience with it with it, and you'll be completely amazed by this, was the last twenty minutes of The Wicker Man is an extended pagan festival.
Sarah:Is that the first time you'd ever seen Morris dancing?
Mark:Yes.
Sarah:Okay. I know you saw lots of movies at inappropriate ages, but you couldn't have been that young. And surely, you'd seen him before that.
Mark:No. It's just not a thing in Canada. But it's not a thing here. So where would I have seen it?
Sarah:I'll tell you where I first saw them. I know exactly where I first The saw Men Without Hats video for Safety Dance. Oh. There are Morris dancers in that video.
Mark:I would have seen that before.
Sarah:Safety Dance.
Mark:The first time I saw Wicker Man was in that weird period of junior high to early high school.
Sarah:So you'd you saw men without hats before then?
Mark:I think probably saw men without hats before then.
Sarah:My favorite though. Well, the doctor who is really good because they're evil.
Mark:Yeah.
Sarah:But they're bet they're I never thought I'd say this sentence. There are better evil Morris dancers
Mark:Okay.
Sarah:In the Terry Pratchett book called Wintersmith. Oh. And they're called the dark Morris.
Mark:The dark Morris.
Sarah:Yeah. And they've got music and everything. And one of my favorite quotes comes from it's a book called Wintersmith, and it has the the Dark Morris dancers in it. And my one of my favorite Pratchett quotes, because I'm such a nut for Pratchett. Are you ready?
Sarah:Yep. There was a long drawn out chord that by law must precede all folk music to give bystanders time to get away. That's how they're introduced. The music starts, and everybody runs. Plumber's got his bells on and everything,
Mark:and then, you know Suddenly, he doesn't. Here's help me
Sarah:because, you know, Jesus is crawling out of the underbrush.
Mark:Yes. Complete with crown of thorns. The costuming in this episode is fantastic.
Sarah:It's great, but it's also simple. It's not hard to make Rick look like Jesus. He's already gangly and kinda beat up and bearded.
Mark:You have all that, plus you have the multiple costumes of the players. Yeah. Plus plus you Johnny's costuming.
Sarah:I love the photo of Johnny and Errol dressed like Roman soldiers playing with the spear that Mike shows Johnny at the cop shop.
Mark:Just is a picture.
Sarah:And yet, Tonya had even to been to Rome.
Mark:Had to, like, totally dress them. Okay.
Sarah:But they're just togas with hats. I mean
Mark:But still, it's all these costumes. I know. Plus Frodo is in different Christmas stuff
Sarah:every different headgear every time you see him. When Plummer sees Rick climb out of the the weeds, his eyes close.
Mark:Yeah. Like, he they they get his identity from fingerprints, but what they should get his identity from is doctor Plummer going, that's one of my patients.
Sarah:Yeah. That's Rick.
Mark:Like, that's not a betrayal of trust or anything.
Sarah:No. He's not giving away details. He's identifying the victim.
Mark:Yes. That's Rick.
Sarah:Yes. But for some reason, he doesn't.
Mark:I
Sarah:Because he's trying to hide his Morris dancing, and he can't admit that he like, you weren't doing anything wrong just because your husband doesn't isn't crazy about it. Doesn't mean you have to lie to the police or withhold information.
Mark:I think that's a clever little moment of sometimes you keep things from your spouse that you're worried about them accepting when it's really not that bad after all because they love you no matter what.
Sarah:That and maybe Plummer is just so shocked at Rick climbing out of the woods like that that he just doesn't think to say I know who he is.
Mark:Maybe. And then Kristen finds the bell and he's like, oh.
Sarah:Oh. Oh. This whole episode is really about the death of a truly psychologically damaged person.
Mark:He is he has mental illness that remains untreated that affects the lives of other people. Okay? Like, just just for a second, imagine the trauma that his ex girlfriend has gone through. Right? So not only does
Sarah:If I came home and found that you had nailed yourself to the side of the house, I'd be like, woah.
Mark:And I'm asking you to finish the job.
Sarah:Yeah. I made this spear so you can kill me with it. What?
Mark:Like, she needs lots of art therapy.
Sarah:And and he needs to be, like, hospitalized. Yeah. Because not only is he delusional, he's self destructive.
Mark:Well, he's living in a cave eating beans.
Sarah:But then not so crazy that he can't come up with an incredibly complex plot to steal something of value for money.
Mark:One of the things that Brokenwood gets correct is the limited intelligence and planning of the petty criminal.
Sarah:Rick's got that because while he's delusional enough to think that he actually is Jesus, he's not so delusional that he hasn't somehow tracked down this relic at another church where it was the year before, taking detailed measurements and photographs probably to recreate it out of cheaper metal and swap it out.
Mark:On his little workbench that he built in the forest?
Sarah:Visually, it is identical except just not as shiny. Yep. How how did he pull that off? I don't know. Shall we suspend disbelief that Rick is a a metalsmith of the highest degree?
Sarah:He does make a spear.
Mark:The relics are the biggest suspension of disbelief in this episode.
Sarah:Oh, no. They can't be bigger than suspending the disbelief that that's not a rock outside the cave.
Mark:Okay. No one okay. Chalmers identifies it as a fake rock right away. Okay. One knows it's a
Sarah:no one It's not supposed to be a rock.
Mark:No. No. Every rock. Everyone assumes it's a fake rock.
Sarah:So he made that too? Yeah. He made that too?
Mark:At his workbench in the like, did you notice behind them at the camp near the cave, I guess?
Sarah:What did he fabricate it out of?
Mark:I I don't know, but I would like to because we wanted to make big things like that that were like that
Sarah:I can tell you how to make it. I just can't tell you how to make it at a workbench in the woods. Oh, okay. Cynthia is carving, I think, what's supposed to be a big stone ball. Yeah.
Sarah:That's not No. Very convincing. So, you know, maybe she made it for him. She's clearly made one fake ball and she'd make another one.
Mark:In addition, they're in this park type place, Pahuna Point, I think they call it.
Sarah:Well, it's Hackett's Glade in Pahuna Point.
Mark:Yeah. Like, that cave, any park ranger would be like, that needs to be sealed up.
Sarah:It's not a cave. Did you see the interior shot? Yeah. Where there's a mortar and and and, like, stacked stone walls? Yeah.
Sarah:If that's the same place, I assume that it is. They didn't find two different places to shoot the inside and the outside of the cave.
Mark:Oh, I think they totally did.
Sarah:Yeah?
Mark:Yeah. I think that cave was not well, the door is in the same shape.
Sarah:Oh, the door. Because caves have doors.
Mark:The opening is not the same.
Sarah:When you see it from the inside, it is rather door shaped. Rounded at the top, but dory.
Mark:And it's a huge indoor space, which animals, people, anything else would go live there.
Sarah:Like So you think they would have, like, a gate across it?
Mark:They would have a gate or something across it.
Sarah:To keep bricks out? To keep
Mark:Yes.
Sarah:This is our anti Jesus gate. It's pretty new here. Every year, some Looney Tunes shows up, thinks they're Jesus. We we have to install this gate.
Mark:I want you to pierce my heart so that you know I'm dead.
Sarah:Wow. Love you.
Mark:So I dumped his ass.
Sarah:Ah, he's high maintenance.
Mark:He is indeed high maintenance.
Sarah:And I doubt he contributes much. He gets lucky when he finds God's players in the bus.
Mark:I mean That's incredibly lucky.
Sarah:He needs them. If I assume he's been working for quite a while on his fake leaves of gold, not quite knowing how he's gonna pull off the the swap. And then Errol shows up with Johnny. And? Mary and Maddie.
Mark:Mary and Maddie. The donkey doesn't get a credit. I checked.
Sarah:What's Mary's name?
Mark:Mary Mary.
Sarah:Mary Mary. I sent you a photo
Mark:Yes.
Sarah:Before we started recording
Mark:Yes.
Sarah:That I did not identify.
Mark:Yes.
Sarah:Now is the time for you to describe this photo to the listeners.
Mark:Okay. This is a photo of a what appears to be a man ish woman.
Sarah:It's a man in costume
Mark:Okay.
Sarah:Dressed like a woman.
Mark:With pearls and a blue dress Mhmm. And like a suit jacket over that
Sarah:Conservative clothing.
Mark:Conservative clothing. In in a group of young black men.
Sarah:Yes. Okay.
Mark:And she is saying you guys
Sarah:Wait a minute. Where but where is she in that group?
Mark:She's at the front of that group.
Sarah:She is at the front of a stage
Mark:is where she's at. Okay. Okay.
Sarah:Looking up at the stage.
Mark:Okay. She's looking up at something.
Sarah:And there is a caption and there's a closed caption at the bottom to say what she says and what is she saying?
Mark:She says, you guys are so dropdonian. Dropdonian. Dropdonian.
Sarah:And you don't know where that's from?
Mark:No. I do not know.
Sarah:Just you guys are so dropdonian. No. Wow. I thought you would recognize it after after we got to that point. I feel so lame now.
Sarah:Okay. When I hear Mary Mary, I think of two things. One, the monkeys.
Mark:Yeah. That's the monkeys song.
Sarah:And two, run DMC. Mary Mary, why you bugging? Yes. The music video for that for that song
Mark:Yes.
Sarah:Has this group of middle aged old well, they're older ladies who call themselves WAR, the women against rock. Okay. And they're trying to shut down the concert. But then when she gets to the front and tells them to stop playing, she goes, oh, you guys are so drop a doney. And then she gets pulled up on the stage and dances with Run DMC.
Sarah:Like, she converts really
Mark:forgot about it.
Sarah:You don't remember that music video?
Mark:I vaguely remember the music video.
Sarah:Oh my gosh. I thought for sure when I said that to you, you would go, that's from the Run DMC video for Mary Mary.
Mark:No. I'm sorry. The you have to understand Listen,
Sarah:is it just me who remembered that music video, or did anybody
Mark:else remember that? The music video in the show.
Sarah:Hope there's at least one other person out there who's like, I totally remember that music video. Because the women go around, like, interrupting people doing things because they just assume that they're doing bad things. This is right after Tipper Gore
Mark:tried Oh, it's to totally
Sarah:take down all rock music and rap especially. Like the war ladies go up to a van that's rocking, and they're like, there's sex going on in there. I'm sure that Run DMC promotes sex. And they open the door, and there's a bunch of people, and they're exercising. And they're like, Run DMC promote a healthy lifestyle.
Sarah:We're just aerobicizing. And they go from spot to spot. No. No? Never mind.
Mark:I'm just I know I've seen that video, but I cannot recall that single that small portion.
Sarah:Not every, you know, trick No. Quiz, stump mark No. Works. So Maddie's not credited but she's a cute donkey.
Mark:She is Okay. We have a thing.
Sarah:Never mind. That's what I'm thinking now. No. Move on.
Mark:We have a thing that we do that everybody does, which is we say what our dog is thinking.
Sarah:Yes. Right? There needs to be a word for that. Yes. And We narrate the dog all
Mark:the time. Narrate the dog all the
Sarah:time. Olive.
Mark:And the dog, because she's a French bulldog, sniffs and breathes out her nose in
Sarah:Kind of a sneezy way sometimes just Yeah. Yes. Not not every time she breathes, but to punctuate This is a
Mark:common thing that French bulldogs do. And we assume that she's basically saying bull at this point.
Sarah:Because that's how she feels about everything. Yes. Yeah.
Mark:And the donkey does the perfect bullshit moment too.
Sarah:The donkey also does another olive thing when it lets out a gigantic fart to announce its presence to Plummer in the woods. That's a very olive
Mark:stick Woah. To Woah. Okay. This is a spoiler podcast. We have suspended disbelief about the relics.
Mark:We have suspended disbelief about Kristen, but we must suspend all belief that that piece of metal statuary passes through that donkey without killing it. There is that. Drops the clanger on the ground.
Sarah:That that Maddie swallows that that circular ring of leaves, that it doesn't stab her every organ as it goes through her and manages to fit out her butt whole and unbent. That All of that is impossible.
Mark:That is the miracle of this episode. Yes.
Sarah:Yes. That is the miracle. Why speaking of miracles, why is Rick trying to recreate the Easter miracle at Christmas? He's all mixed up.
Mark:Like I love that Johnny Oates is scripted and Tim Baum does so well. And I'm assuming Tim Baum has a friend or a brother who is like this.
Sarah:Who
Mark:speaks authoritatively
Sarah:About nothing he knows anything about. Nothing he knows about. Right? I've read the bible. I liked Geronimo.
Sarah:That's my favorite chapter. Like,
Mark:that and how does the crew look at that straight face and not just die?
Sarah:I love when Johnny is playing all three kings at once Yeah. And says, I bring Frankenstein. Well and he does a different accent for each of them too.
Mark:He does a different accent.
Sarah:He is an odes.
Mark:But Johnny Odes, when Mary Mary, Johnny, the other guy
Sarah:Errol.
Mark:Errol and Jesus are all together. First of all, Johnny is the smartest
Sarah:one of them. He is. It's really sad.
Mark:And second of all, they do that thing of trying to make sense but not making sense. There's two Josephs in the vibe.
Sarah:Errol's dressed like like a construction worker. Joseph was a carpenter. I thought this worked.
Mark:Well, you two, you three will have half, so you get 50%, and I get 50%. And the best part is Johnny goes, no. That's
Sarah:That's not fair. We should each get a quarter. Yes. There's four of us.
Mark:Which is the correct match.
Sarah:But but Rick is also a shyster. He may be psycho, but he's a shyster. He's like, I I'm giving you half. I can't give you more than that. Come on.
Sarah:But the the the dumbness runs in the odes. We know this. Frodo says that he sees Errol who is his cousin, half cousin?
Mark:He says he's his half cousin.
Sarah:From time to time.
Mark:The only way you can be a half cousin is that if you have a set of grandparents and only one of them between the two of you, you share.
Sarah:So you have the same grandmother but not grandfather?
Mark:Or the same grandfather not grandmother.
Sarah:Well, Frodo describes Errol because he lives in his van, as itinerary.
Mark:Yes. With a donkey.
Sarah:Do you think Maddie stands in the back of the van while they drive and doesn't fall over, or does she just lay down and fart in the back?
Mark:The movement of animals is difficult at best. I have experience with this. Poor Maddie. And you you could not take that donkey in that. Like, you forget, you think, oh, the inside of a vehicle is big.
Mark:And then you put something that is actually big like that donkey
Sarah:Mhmm.
Mark:In there.
Sarah:Never mind they live in there. So it's not like it's just empty, a car like a cargo van in the back. It it just Matty just has to sit in a chair in the back.
Mark:So I did I did the the AI thing.
Sarah:Mhmm.
Mark:And I asked Gemini if they could I said it was going to be tough. I said, could you create a family tree for the oats?
Sarah:Because you have tried to do this and sort of quasi failed struggle.
Mark:Quasi failed. I it would probably take an
Sarah:entire Tim, if you're out there, do you have a family tree of the oats? Because we really like to see it.
Mark:I think it would probably take an entire day to do that.
Sarah:You'd have to watch so many episodes to tease out.
Mark:Watch so many episodes
Sarah:Gemini able? Because Gemini has all the scripts of all the
Mark:episodes. So did you know that there's twins that are part of the 13 children of Danny Odes? Yes. Okay. Then when are they showing up?
Sarah:Was it able to do it?
Mark:It it gave me a text version, and then I asked for an infographic, and it failed Oh. Very badly.
Sarah:I'm going And to be fair, the Odds family tree is kind of a loop de loop. So I can see why it would be
Mark:Especially Frodo, his lineage is in question in a couple of episodes because the same woman has relationship with two brothers, and it's unsure who
Sarah:Which of them is his dad Yeah. And which is his dunkle? Yeah. So
Mark:I may I may take some time this summer to take a day off from work and come up with an odes family tree.
Sarah:Or if any of you are crazy enough to give it a shot, let us know.
Mark:It would be incredibly difficult.
Sarah:Or Tracy, if you're listening, ask Tim if he has a family tree of the odes. As a writer, you would want that because you don't wanna you don't wanna make mistakes later and with other characters.
Mark:I have a family tree of a minor character in my book.
Sarah:Well, you're crazy like that. Yes. I feel so bad for Errol when Maddy's missing. He is legitimately sad.
Mark:He loves that donkey and that is why so Errol is the quasi murderer. Okay? In a fit of rage
Sarah:when Rick is about to shoot the donkey.
Mark:Rick is about to shoot
Sarah:Errol stops him by stabbing him.
Mark:Stops him by stabbing him. To which, okay. First of all
Sarah:If somebody was about to shoot Olive and you had a spear in your hand, would you stop them by stabbing them?
Mark:I would incapacitate them with the spear.
Sarah:But you might knock them on the head with the handle, not Something. Not stab them.
Mark:In addition, any magistrate in this particular jurisdiction when he sees or she sees the name Oates on his docket, they likely understand there may be circumstances that need explaining.
Sarah:They at least settle in. Well, this is gonna be fun.
Mark:So I don't I I'm not sure Errol is gonna go up the pogie, but I think that that he is the cause of the death.
Sarah:Well, know, you don't wanna hang out with the odes if you don't wanna get in trouble. And Errol is also an odes, so he brings trouble with him even if he doesn't intend to. He seems like a kind of innocent guy. If he hadn't run into Johnny and run into Rick, he and Mary would probably just be traveling around with the donkey Yeah. Doing their thing.
Sarah:Doesn't strike me as a as a lawbreaker No. On his own.
Mark:I don't I think they got caught up in something with Johnny and Rick that they didn't wanna be involved in.
Sarah:Well
Mark:But then Mary was like, we need some money because
Sarah:Because Maddie needs surgery. They've even got a good reason to want the money. Yeah. But Johnny's just come out of home detention. Twelve months of home detention for abuse of human remains after the fact.
Sarah:Do you remember what that is?
Mark:That is the remains that they placed in the sarcophagus to fake the mummy.
Sarah:Because Johnny's dunkle dug up a body to swap out for the mummy. Because I don't know if it's his dad or his uncle, so I'm just gonna say dunkle. He's also Frodo's dunkle. He's the undertaker.
Mark:Which gets a reference in the very latest episode
Sarah:of Brokenwood. Because Johnny helped him move the body and swap out the mummy, he got twelve months of home detention. Yeah. But now he's loose.
Mark:He's well, he found God.
Sarah:He found Rick. He found Rick. He thinks Rick is g. When they're when they're in the bar together, Rick and Johnny.
Mark:And the big thing of the
Sarah:cooler of fish.
Mark:Trudy is like, no. Their bar tab is like $60.
Sarah:Ouch. How much have they had to drink?
Mark:I do not know,
Sarah:but That's a lot of beer.
Mark:She is like, get out right now.
Sarah:Rick could be very persuasive. Yeah. He says, let's rob a church. Okay. We'll have to put on a nativity player to do it.
Sarah:Okay. You have to play all three kings. Okay. It doesn't take a lot to persuade Johnny.
Mark:So I did a search on relics in New Zealand because okay.
Sarah:Relics are a Catholic thing. Right?
Mark:Relics are a Catholic thing and an Orthodox thing. Not normally an Anglican thing because like Henry was like, we don't like that they have relics.
Sarah:Is you're talking about Henry the eighth? Yeah. Is Green are they is that an Anglican church or just some kind of Protestant church?
Mark:It's an Anglican church.
Sarah:Okay.
Mark:Saint Judas. So I thought there's not gonna be many relics in New Zealand. Right? First of all you have Australia which would probably be the largest Anglican state in the Southern Hemisphere. Right?
Sarah:Okay.
Mark:So I thought if there's gonna be a relic, it's gonna be in it's gonna be in Australia.
Sarah:But why would they have relics in? Do Anglicans have saints?
Mark:No. No. And the only relics I found were all Roman Catholic. Okay. So second of all, it's kind of far away from the whole
Sarah:thing. Yeah.
Mark:You are a bit removed. You're a bit remote from, you know, Bethlehem or Jerusalem.
Sarah:But I there are relics in South America. Is South America further from the Vatican than than New Zealand is?
Mark:I think so.
Sarah:Okay.
Mark:Okay. But what I found was a story which became much more interesting the more I read it, which was in The Guardian, which the title is only in New Zealand relics found in coffee jars in rubble of Christchurch Cathedral.
Sarah:Okay.
Mark:I thought they would have mentioned this in the episode. It's so Brokenwoody.
Sarah:Yeah. Does somebody hid relics in a coffee can that they only discovered when the cathedral
Mark:So in twenty ten, twenty eleven, there were horrible earthquakes in New Zealand. Mhmm. And part of it, the main cathedral of Christchurch was decimated.
Sarah:Okay.
Mark:So they have spent the last ten years cleaning that up.
Sarah:Is that a Catholic church?
Mark:Or It's a
Sarah:Catholic church.
Mark:And they just only found well, not just. Let's see. It's more than five years ago. Okay? So Before this episode.
Sarah:Before this episode. Yep. So they could have referenced it.
Mark:Yep. They found a bunch of relics including bones and what purports to be a piece of the true cross. Yeah. Yeah. Now, my history teacher was famous for saying there are enough pieces of the true cross in Europe to make 50 crosses.
Sarah:To make the ark.
Mark:Basically. Yeah. But I don't want to suggest that I don't believe these are actual artifacts and I'm not going to go into that but we have
Sarah:But who hides them in a coffee can?
Mark:We have this paragraph which is, while one might have expected a clay or gold plated chest, the bones were instead nestled in a pair of nineteen seventies Gregg coffee jars and a sweeps soda bottle. Now they've been removed and taken care of in in nice presentation.
Sarah:How did they know that's what they were and it wasn't just
Mark:They were labeled. Leftovers
Sarah:of somebody's lunch shoved in a bottle.
Mark:Tape was put on the bottle, and there was a label.
Sarah:Some priest was kinda desperate to find something to put them in.
Mark:I
Sarah:I can't just hold these things in my hand. Where am I gonna put them?
Mark:Where am I gonna put them?
Sarah:It's like when somebody hands you chewed gum. I gotta put it somewhere.
Mark:I was kind of amazed by those things.
Sarah:Well, I'm glad that they weren't completely lost when the the church fell. No. What is what is up with the gun? So Cynthia, Rick's girlfriend, ex girlfriend, has a shotgun that belonged to her father. Rick saws off the barrel.
Sarah:I'm not sure why. I don't know why. Nope. And it does go off when he's threatening to kill Maddie. Yes.
Sarah:And then they toss it in the cave with his with him after he crawls in there, and they toss the shell in there too. I didn't see anybody do that.
Mark:It it's very strange. I'm thinking that's no way to kill a donkey. What? With a shotgun? Yeah.
Mark:It's gonna be really messy.
Sarah:Not not as messy as Johnny taking poor Maddie down to the stream and supposedly slitting her throat and then cutting her up like Luke in Star Wars. What is that animal he cuts open? It's not a Jawa. I keep thinking Jawa. Those are the little guys.
Sarah:He never got to Jawa.
Mark:The snow creature things.
Sarah:The ones that the thing that he climbs in. Okay. Johnny's gonna be a mess. I don't care if he's next to the stream or not. Poor man.
Sarah:And and none of that should happen to Maddie no matter how
Mark:fast she good is the acting there is really good because we know Johnny is going to let her go.
Sarah:Oh, yeah. He's not gonna do it.
Mark:We know he's gonna
Sarah:let her Johnny's a lot of things, but he's not a donkey killer.
Mark:He's not a donkey killer. I may be a lot of things, but I'm not a donkey killer.
Sarah:Yeah. I may abuse human remains after the fact, but not donkeys. The oaths have standards after all. Yeah. Wouldn't that that would have shot in it.
Sarah:Right? Not like a bullet.
Mark:It would likely have shot not a hard cartridge. There there are hard cartridges for shotguns like that. Yeah. But it it just it would have been really messy.
Sarah:Well, we shouldn't talk about that anymore.
Mark:Missus Baker knows how to make a cake and Gina does not.
Sarah:Gina's reaction to Mike potentially leaving is just go to bed.
Mark:So first of all
Sarah:Make a cake go to bed.
Mark:Yep. Gina is living in in Kristen's house. The first time we saw her in the house she's in a bear costume. With her feet up
Sarah:eating cereal.
Mark:And the reason why she's in the bear costume is because it's the special day in Russia where the brown bears begin to hibernate which is late for November. Like, I think they would have hibernated before this.
Sarah:Yeah. I got really confused at that point because I'm like, hemisphere screwed up. Yeah. No. It's but Christmas still happens in the same month.
Sarah:Sarah, come on. Look at a calendar, not a globe. I was I was like, I'm so stupid. But, Gina, it's really spring.
Mark:Stop it. Is a summer holiday.
Sarah:Yes. It just messes me
Mark:up every weird way to get around. But then she mentions that other places have other celebrations including the tundra bean goose, which sounds incredibly improbable. Right? A bean goose? The tundra bean goose.
Sarah:Yeah. Is that a real thing?
Mark:It is a real thing and it breeds in Northern Siberia.
Sarah:Is it called a bean goose because it eats beans or because it looks like one?
Mark:It does not look like a bean.
Sarah:Okay. Good. Because I was trying to imagine what that would look like. Like a big lima with with webbed feet and a beak. Because you'd call that a bean goose too if you saw that.
Mark:It it just seems to be like a goose that lives in Siberia that is a regular bird. It just has different colored plumage and stuff like that.
Sarah:What? And it it migrates or something at the same time, and so they have Yes. A celebration of it.
Mark:It's closely related to the pink footed goose.
Sarah:Of course. But,
Mark:yeah. It just seems that's one of those writer things where they must have done two minutes of research and been like, oh, there's the bird right there.
Sarah:Yeah. That's the thing that Gene has got to mention. The tundra bean goose. Being weird.
Mark:So whenever, just think about it. You're in the office this week and you're listening to your podcast or something and somebody interrupts you, just go, you silly tundra bean goose. So then Kristen tells
Sarah:Nope. You have to say, you're so drop a don't ian.
Mark:You're so drop a don't ian. Merry Mary. Kristen tells Gina that Mike is leaving.
Sarah:Which she does not need to do.
Mark:She shouldn't have done it.
Sarah:It's none of her business.
Mark:But then Gina takes it up to eleven and freaks the freak out. She just goes to bed. She just goes right to bed first.
Sarah:She's done.
Mark:And then there is the baking scene.
Sarah:So The cake she makes is supposed to look like Brokenwood, but it's only got two buildings on it.
Mark:Yes.
Sarah:And there's the cop shop and and the mortuary.
Mark:Yeah. That was the only two important buildings.
Sarah:And a lot of grass.
Mark:A lot of green gas.
Sarah:I don't know why she thinks that she she thinks that's gonna make Mike wanna stay.
Mark:I guess? Did you notice her apron? No. Oh, her apron is one of those great touristy aprons for New Zealand. Like, it it has a map of New Zealand on it and all
Sarah:that. Oh, you think that's Gina's apron and not just one from Kristen's kitchen that she put on?
Mark:Whose apron is it?
Sarah:That's a
Mark:good question. Yeah. Would well, maybe Gina's apron would have bean goose on it or something.
Sarah:I think Gina would have one of those aprons that that looks like a naked lady or something. Oh. Or like a woman in the beginning.
Mark:Kristen's not gonna have that.
Sarah:No. But Gina would. Yeah. All I know is that if missus Baker and Gina go on Bake Off, missus Baker's winning.
Mark:Missus Baker okay.
Sarah:Because she can do fondant.
Mark:Missus Baker plays the organ. Okay?
Sarah:Mhmm.
Mark:Missus Baker arranges weddings, and missus Baker makes cakes. She does all that great. And flowers. She does all of that great.
Sarah:She's good at
Mark:all that. She's good at every
Sarah:And in between, she just drinks. Yeah. Apparently, she is always at the pub.
Mark:She's always at the pub.
Sarah:So Errol stabs Rick to stop him from shooting Maddie. Yes. And that is what Rick has always wanted.
Mark:Exactly.
Sarah:Put me in the cave. I'll come back in three days.
Mark:Put me in the cave.
Sarah:So they just do what he asks. Yep. Should they have done that, or should they have called
Mark:an ambulance? They should have called an ambulance.
Sarah:I think so too. I think they should have definitely called. If nothing else, you could say complicating circumstances for Errol and a threat to Maddie, who is his you know, therapy animal, his support animal that's not a regular kind of pet relationship. It has much more meaning to it. There might be some justification there.
Sarah:Rick's clearly a bad guy. Well But
Mark:don't wanna get caught with the leaves.
Sarah:Maddie still has the leaves. They can't get caught with that unless they x-ray Maddie.
Mark:Meanwhile, Maddie
Sarah:Maddie stole them.
Mark:Meanwhile, Maddie's like, oh. It hurts.
Sarah:I don't need the operation anymore. Never mind. All of my guts are shredded now. Thank you very much. I mean, a goat maybe could eat those things and poop them out, but they'd still be all bent up.
Mark:They'd be all bent up. I love how Rev Green sniffs it at the end.
Sarah:And he's like, okay.
Mark:Yep. It's alright. So I wanna talk about two subplots. The first subplot I wanna talk about is Johnny running away for trauma.
Sarah:Like an Olympic athlete every time. And Chalmers showing off his soccer skills John. By catching a cabbage and saving a child from a cabbage.
Mark:The cabbage was nowhere near. I love how the
Sarah:cabbage saw big gloves on Chalmers' hands when he got
Mark:I love how the cabbages are not explained at all. If you have a brain, you realize that
Sarah:feed Maddie.
Mark:To feed Maddie. Right? But that no one says that. Everyone just assumes that's why they have
Sarah:That's why they have carrots.
Mark:Yes. It's three times Johnny gets away from him. And then and then Chalmers does the, well, I guess I gotta go now.
Sarah:I give up. Everybody leave.
Mark:Stomp. Stomp. Stomp.
Sarah:It's because Johnny is so stupid.
Mark:And then the flying tackle.
Sarah:I love that flying tackle.
Mark:I I have to think that the actor who plays Chalmers enjoyed that after chasing him all episode Yeah. And probably said, no. We need to do that again.
Sarah:And, you know, it might not even be Johnny that he tackles because it's we see Johnny's back.
Mark:Yeah.
Sarah:So it may be a stunt person.
Mark:It's probably a stunt.
Sarah:And I'm sure there's a big cushion Yeah. Right off to the side. But but Chalmers is horizontal. Yes. Like, it's awesome.
Sarah:It's a great shot.
Mark:The second plot I wanna talk about, and they have done this so well. This is season ten of this show. Okay? They come up with new ways to show you that Christy cannot make coffee.
Sarah:Chalmers
Mark:is she doing on the table with the plethora?
Sarah:She's doing what what missus m told her to do, swooshing or whatever.
Mark:She Chalmers is looking at her like, what are you doing?
Sarah:It's so bad that Chalmers won't even give it to the prisoners. No. When she leaves to talk to Hughes, he pours it out behind her back rather than give it to the people in
Mark:the Chalmers totally takes one for the team. No. You should go. I'll stay here.
Sarah:Yeah. And make new coffee for these poor people. I know they're criminals, but they shouldn't have to drink that. So in the end, though, you know, Errol admits that he stabbed Rick.
Mark:Because and this is the last decide that we will do because of the triangle of silence. Yes. So what is the triangle of silence?
Sarah:It's the deal between Errol, Mary, and Johnny
Mark:You think
Sarah:that. Investigated by Rick to keep them quiet.
Mark:You think that.
Sarah:Because he thinks he's working with idiots.
Mark:But that's not it. The triangle of silence is see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil.
Sarah:Mhmm.
Mark:Because he makes reference to that. Yeah. And then, Mary Mary. Why you buggin' Does the diamond of silence sign?
Sarah:I think she's trying to do a triangle with her hands.
Mark:She's trying to It's hard to do. And they they keep the silence up to a certain point but they realize that it's not helping anybody.
Sarah:Well once Errol thinks that Maddie is gonna go to strangers he's done. Yeah. That's it.
Mark:And we have the weird scene outside of the jail with Maddie in the parking lot pooping.
Sarah:Yes. And the clang.
Mark:The clang.
Sarah:I don't envy the prop person, Evan, to make that. But there's a there's a moral of this story.
Mark:Yes.
Sarah:And the moral is no one in Brokenwood should ever dance in public.
Mark:Not plumber Oh, okay.
Sarah:And not anybody at the bar.
Mark:So there's Wow.
Sarah:There's some bad dancing going on there.
Mark:The the idea is that everyone comes together at the end and says scene. Happy ending. Yay. The mystery is all over. So now we're going to do some partying.
Sarah:And Mike's not leaving.
Mark:And Mike's not leaving.
Sarah:I love how you said that. And now we are going to do some partying.
Mark:Well, it's kinda like Yeah.
Sarah:I don't know. Tammy Nielsen rocks.
Mark:Well, Tammy Nielsen, first of all, is fantastic and is up for a music award in New Zealand this week.
Sarah:Good for her.
Mark:So it's fantastic. Her her brother's in the band. Right? And we know they do the music for the show. Mhmm.
Mark:And they're Canadian. So they're fantastic because they're Canadian. Right? That whole part, I don't have a problem. The hats
Sarah:The Yeehaw get ups?
Mark:That the Morris dancers are wearing. Oh. Because for some reason, they've decided to come to this country hoedown dressed as Morris dancers.
Sarah:They've been practicing.
Mark:It's a cute moment, a romantic moment between these two people.
Sarah:Mhmm.
Mark:And one of the things I continually love about Brokenwood is they don't put a giant neon sign over these two men saying, by the way, they're gay.
Sarah:Yeah. It just says It's just who they are.
Mark:It just says, these are two people in a relationship who love each other. Yep. Right? And I love that.
Sarah:They dance better than anybody else in that bar.
Mark:Then everybody's in the hoedown outfits and then they start to dance.
Sarah:Wow. There's
Mark:some pad dancing. Does Chalmers understand rhythm?
Sarah:I think Chalmers has a stick up his butt. Like Maybe he's sore from chasing Johnny all time all the worse than Louis than than Seinfeld dancing. I know. That the jerkiness of it.
Mark:It's just
Sarah:And Mike is like, oh, no. You guys go dance. I'll just stay here. Oh, what the hell? I'll go dance.
Sarah:Like, no. No.
Mark:And then he starts to it was only saved. Okay. It's only saved because Hughes didn't bust in and start
Sarah:He he would he would be like that break dancer at the Olympics. What was her name?
Mark:Jetpack or something.
Sarah:They're they would clear a circle for Hughes still in his dress blues, and he would do the worst breakdancing ever.
Mark:At that point, the lead singer would stop and go, what are you doing?
Sarah:I'm done. You stop or I stop. That's it. It's a fun episode and we got to meet a new odes.
Mark:So what it is, what you don't realize and you've probably seen these in shows before. Right? Anytime in which there's a celebration at the end of the episode like that and it's at the end of the season, they're celebrating a milestone.
Sarah:Mhmm.
Mark:Right? And we've seen this in midsummer. Right? They do these little party things.
Sarah:So you assume they actually filmed this scene last?
Mark:I think they probably filmed this scene last, and it was a wrap for season ten. They did ten seasons. If you remember, I don't think they were planning on more than season one.
Sarah:Mhmm.
Mark:So, the fact that they've done ten seasons, they are the number one show exported from New Zealand.
Sarah:Yeah.
Mark:They are insanely popular.
Sarah:Yeah.
Mark:Right? So that this is absolutely a celebration of all the things that are Brokenwood.
Sarah:Our show is successful. Let us dance badly.
Mark:Yep. And boy, do they ever.
Sarah:The real question is, are those actors really that bad at dancing, or are they just that good of actors that they dance that badly because they think their characters would dance that badly?
Mark:I think
Sarah:Which way are you leaning?
Mark:That Kristen is probably a better dancer than she danced there. I don't know about the rest of them.
Sarah:It's yeah. If you haven't seen this episode in a while, go back and just just watch the end. Just enjoy the bad dancing. Yep. It's it's quite bad.
Mark:Now I gotta I gotta tell you, Sarah. It's not unheard of for a show in later seasons to become complacent and comfortable with itself. Yep. I think Murdoch is probably
Sarah:Or to enjoy its success too much and take itself too seriously. Murdoch has
Mark:probably slipped into this. I would say father
Sarah:Brown a while ago.
Mark:Father Brown has probably slipped into this as well. This is not Brokenwood. No. Brokenwood ends this great season and moves on to season eleven, which we know is fantastic. Fantastic.
Mark:Yeah. Including an award winning Odes episode. Yes. Which may be the funniest thing filmed in the Southern Hemisphere. Okay?
Sarah:And that has a good mystery in it.
Mark:And it has a good mystery in it. And the first two see episodes of season twelve have also been bangers.
Sarah:Yep. Yep. It just keeps getting better.
Mark:It they they're they're hitting their stride.
Sarah:So that is the end of season ten of Brokenwood Mysteries. Next time, we'll start with season eleven.
Mark:So the first episode of season eleven of Brokenwood is The Ghost in You. So there'll be lots of talk of eighties new wave. Mhmm. And we see Ray. Ray's been away.
Mark:I don't know where Ray's been.
Sarah:And we have a mini for that one.
Mark:We have a mini so we will be answering the questions that we posed in the mini on the next episode of Mystery Maniacs.
Sarah:So go listen to that mini again Yes. And refresh your mind.
Mark:I'll put the mini in the show notes of this episode so that you can click on it and listen to it. We were noticing the other day that we started the minis in 2019 which was stunning to me. Mhmm. I thought it was a much later development. Yep.
Mark:But we were onto something right away with the minis and the watch like a maniac thing and I, you know
Sarah:It's one of my favorite things to do for the podcast. I hope you guys like it too.
Mark:I'm not sure where we came up with the idea but it was a good one. Yep. I'm very pleased about it.
Sarah:Well until then, until next time. Bye Maniacs.
Mark:Remember what odes are you related to?
Sarah:Hopefully, none. Bye,
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Sarah:So Kristen tells Baker and Trudy The no. Hughes. Who? What? She tells Chalmers.
Sarah:She tells the the Rick, Errol,
Mark:Mary, The lady who works at the place where the dead people are. Gina. Okay. Kristen
Sarah:I twisted every person in the episode. Okay. Start over.