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It's that time in life when you learn,
you have to plug the plug in the
whole way to the system.
We're going to talk about that next.
I love the chase and the hunt and
I set the pace when I'm running.
I always take what I want and I
always give it one hundred.
Don't need a bank, no I'm funded.
Play the game like it's nothing.
I'm always thankful for something.
Don't take for granted, stay humble.
Now wake up!
It's time to look at the enemy.
Look in the mirror if he is no
friend to me.
It's not working out,
maybe it's the chemistry.
It's time to break up so I can
make a better me.
It's lunch time.
What is going on, everybody?
Welcome to Lunch with the Clydesdale,
where today we learned that in order for
electronics to work,
they have to be plugged the entire way
in.
You can't just let them hang out the
wall.
You can't let them hang out the mixer.
I was rushing.
I was rushing.
That's really all I got.
That's really the only excuse that I have.
On tomorrow's episode,
we'll learn about the on-off button.
Yeah, for real.
I turned it off and turned it back
on.
That was like the first thing I did.
That's the best.
Here we are.
You know what?
We moved past it.
we do we it's in the rearview mirror
already man we're moving on to the next
thing so uh it's been a wild quarterfinals
weekend yeah i titled this show um are
we seeing a new era of crossfit coverage
um i think it is incredible the amount
of live streaming that went on this
weekend
I won't say it was too much, right?
Because I never want to put a gift
horse in their mouth.
But, dude, there was something.
You didn't have to wait long.
It was almost – so I liken it
to a games weekend or a semifinals weekend
where, like,
you were just waiting for the next event
to happen because there was that much
stuff happening where – and I'm talking
about from, like,
watching Joseph Ramirez going with the
Glintons at six a.m.
my time all the way through Dallin and
the boys and Fee and the girls, like,
and Colton, and it just kept going, right?
You have no reason to –
yeah that was fun to watch as well
like because it went one through three
four right in a row i mean watching
the absolutely insane time tutor maga put
up and it was it was fantastic it's
all of a sudden people were interested in
actually funnels because you don't have to
wait until the leaderboard finally get
goes live this afternoon to be able to
see where everybody's at you kind of get
an idea of what's going on at the
very least
So we do put the plug-in issues in
the rear view mirror,
but according to Joseph,
if you miscount reps,
that sticks with you forever.
It's not the miscounting of reps.
It's doing it in the wrong order.
That's what sticks with you forever.
Absolutely.
Everybody miscounts reps.
But when you do the workout and you
do a choose-your-own-adventure when it's
not a choose-your-own-adventure,
that's what sticks with you forever.
That's a problem.
That's a problem.
You know what?
I'm just going to do,
I'm gonna do the burpees first.
Just call it good.
Don't recommend that by the way.
Yeah.
Um, Amanda, Harry went with hers too.
We, we left her out.
Um, Oh,
So I don't think they were notifications
live.
She does post produce stuff,
but all of hers are out there.
You can watch all four of her workouts
on her channel this weekend.
I watched, uh, her last one.
Well,
she may redo it because she actually
caught herself.
No repping,
which whenever an athlete and let, I mean,
Amanda's awesome.
She's one of my best friends in the
CrossFit space.
Um,
Whenever an athlete admits that they think
they've done something wrong and they're
no repping themselves, like,
I think an angel gets its wings.
I would agree to that.
Right.
Because so many people are trying to fight
and defend themselves for what they do.
And whenever you see an athlete say,
you know what, I screwed up.
I may have to redo this one or
it's not going to count.
Yeah.
And apparently...
I think your plug is still not the
Hawaiian.
You're really scratchy.
I don't know, dude.
It's all the way.
It's as close as it can possibly get.
I'll mess with some stuff in a second.
Okay.
So...
She was doing her dumbbell hang cleans,
hang squat cleans,
and their dumbbells touched her legs at
the bottom.
Apparently, in an FAQ,
it said that that is not allowed because
you can propel the dumbbells with your
legs.
Um,
she didn't feel like she was doing that,
but the rules are the rules.
Um, what I, what I,
if that is in fact true,
and I just watched it right before we
went on the air,
if that is in fact true and that
rule was an FAQ and not in the
written rules, I got,
I got a little bit of a problem
with that.
I definitely have a problem with that.
Definitely have a problem with that.
If that's going to be a rule,
it needs to be in the rules,
and it needs to be out there in
front where everybody can see it.
Right,
because not everybody's reading the FAQs.
But then again, not everybody is videoing,
so not everybody's going to get caught
anyway.
Yeah.
That's a problem.
That's an oversight.
But I feel like it's a pretty big
one.
Well, I say that
but they're not actually looking at
videos.
Right.
Uh, David says, wait, they can't touch.
I know some guys that did that.
Even Hiller did it in his video,
but he posted his video before the FAQ
was even posted.
So then you have,
you have that kind of stuff too.
Right.
So it's, it's, it's bizarre.
Yeah.
I don't know.
We'll let it go.
I mean,
that's not how I do dumbbell hand cleans.
Like,
I always hold mine on the outside of
my legs anyway.
So my initial,
I went outside my legs on my retest.
I went kettlebell clean style or
kettlebell swing style on the inside of my
legs,
which made a huge difference for me
because my grip did not completely blow up
and I didn't have a strong hand pinky
syndrome by the time I was over with.
Like my grip hurt by the end of
it, but it was not, it wasn't,
I mean,
at no point was I about to fail
a clean.
So I was pretty excited about that.
I'm trying to find it as Corey's talking.
Andrew,
which position would be a weird position?
So I understand it would be a weird
position since the dumbbells have to go
below the waist.
Oh, David found it.
Is it on the game site, David?
That's because that's where I'm at.
And so here's our resident head judge, Mr.
Andrew Stanton,
saying nothing in the workout description
about it, so she should be fine,
which I pretty much agree with, dude,
because if it's not in the workout,
if it's not written in the standards,
most people print out that sheet or it's
like four sheets long.
It goes over every single movement thing.
Right.
Hey,
this is what it can look like all
about.
This is what a no rep looks like.
And I would say the vast majority of
people read that.
They don't get off into the weeds and
go, well,
let me go dig down in these FAQs
and see about some kind of uncommon
movement standard type deal.
Yes.
Yes.
you're saying that if the dumbbell hits
the legs it would likely be in in
front and not beside or in between the
legs which who does that like that like
who's gonna come down and hit themselves
in the thighs with dumbbells for eighty
reps that seems a bit masochistic and like
i know we like to hurt ourselves um
as crossfitters but even that seems a bit
much like just beating yourself in the
thighs with fifty or thirty five pound
dumbbells
The FAQ says something about thrusting the
dumbbells off the legs.
Nothing about touching the legs.
Thrusting.
Oh, yeah.
It's one of my favorite words there, Vic.
Answer no.
The dumbbells cannot be pushed off the
thighs.
That comes from the question,
can I push launch the dumbbells off the
legs similar to the barbell hand clean?
So it doesn't say it can't touch.
It just says you cannot propel or.
Rebound it like you would if it was,
if you had a barbell in your hand,
which everybody does.
If it's a light enough weight,
like people are just basically rebounding
it off of their thighs to get a
little extra, a little extra bump.
And nobody ever seems to have a problem
with that.
Does that make sense?
Like if you see people doing it,
like they got hang cleans,
they do it when they're doing DT.
Whenever that first couple rounds, right?
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom,
boom.
How did that go again?
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
You know,
that's the sound of the barbell bouncing
off your thighs.
Sounds like you have a Dr. Dre song.
Shout out to Mr.
Pat Lange for also going live on Linton's
yesterday morning and doing his workout
live for the whole world to see.
My man killed it.
good for you pat proud of you brother
like that's not an easy thing to do
not an easy thing to do and the
fact that he didn't catch cholera from the
walls of that place that he was working
out at is actually pretty impressive as
well because it looked like it hasn't been
cleaned since the kennedy uh assassination
like it's it's been
It's an interesting place he was at.
He did some quick strict handstand pushups
and maybe needed to get off that wall
as quickly as possible.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
He got it done.
He absolutely got it done.
Proud of him.
So I still cannot find the FAQ.
Why is it this hard to find?
No idea.
Oh, well.
I don't know.
We got our answers.
Yeah, close enough.
Close enough.
I trust David Johnson quite a bit,
actually.
So of the weekend and what we saw,
what performance has impressed you most?
Overall, Tudor.
I've never seen anything like that before.
He tripped twice on his double-unders and
still went .
. .
And I understand, well,
he can do a thousand unbroken double
unders.
Yeah, cool.
But that was absolutely bananas to watch.
Between that and Colton's handstand
pushups,
like I'm not sure which one is probably
my favorite,
but I would say Tudor is the one
that so far impressed me.
Of the ones I've seen,
because obviously I haven't had time to
see them all.
saturday morning i went in judged a friend
of mine at uh six a.m coach seven
and eight did the workout at uh nine
thirty the row handstand push-up went home
took a nap eight came back did the
shuttle sprint uh overhead squad burpee
like my saturday was balls to the wall
Yeah, my Friday,
when everybody started going live,
my work day went right out the window.
Oh, yeah, no, absolutely.
Absolutely.
My work day was shot.
Yeah, I actually had stuff to do,
and I was like, okay,
I'm going to fit this in while this
is going on at the same time.
Yeah,
it was absolutely insane with Colton,
the boys, the girls, the Glintons.
I was bouncing from stream to stream
trying to catch everything.
It never stopped, dude.
That was my big thing.
It never stopped.
Losing your mic again, dude.
I don't know what is going on today.
I have no idea.
That's weird.
Another interesting note about the
quarterfinals.
Most people don't know if you register for
Indy and Masters,
your fifty dollars goes to the Indy prize
pool, not Masters.
Can I unregister?
Because I registered for both,
like just to be able to see where
my score would end up on the individual.
And if I'd have known that,
like that's nonsense, dude.
I'm a Masters athlete.
I want my money going to be Masters
athlete.
I didn't know quarterfinals money went to
the prize pool.
I didn't either.
The rule book only says the open.
So my question was,
where does the quarterfinal money go?
And if CrossFit wanted it to run their
shit, I'm cool with it.
I'm cool with a company wanting to make
money.
But if you look at the rule book...
it spells out the prize purse for the
games is based on the open and the
open alone.
Yeah.
That's messed up.
I don't like that.
I don't like that.
Me and David have been chatting all
weekend.
Bro, that dude knows stuff.
Yeah.
Cause that's not what the rule book says.
And you can see like they've already,
when the open was done,
they said what the prizes were going to
be for the, the individual games.
Yeah.
So I don't,
why would you announce what the prize
person is after the open?
Not knowing who's even going to sign up
for quarters.
If that's the case.
Yeah.
David's asking you, what was the question?
My question was, what was your source?
Or if you don't want to reveal your
source, in vaguely,
how did you find out that their money
was going into the prize purse?
Because the rule book only says the open.
And they've already announced the prize
purse for this year when the open was
complete.
Yeah,
so I'm super curious about that because...
Me and David have been chatting all
weekend.
And I'm not asking you to reveal sources.
I just want to find out if that's
true because my big question has been this
whole weekend,
it's nice that CrossFit gets to make some
cash on this quarterfinal because there
have been a ton of signups.
And the rulebook already spells out where
the prize money goes for the athletes.
Now where does the quarterfinal money go?
Because that's not in the rulebook.
Right.
Um,
there was something up here with Larry.
I'm curious where, how Shelly ends up.
She didn't do great,
but I think less than eight hundred
submitted and four hundred move on.
That's good numbers.
While we're talking about that,
I want to give a shout out to
one of my athletes at the gym.
Um, she is in fifty five, fifty nine,
uh,
one of the hardest workers I know, dude,
like coachable, listens,
does all the things.
And really is starting to realize like
what she's actually capable of.
So for the hang clean bar muscle up
one, right.
She doesn't have bar muscle ups.
So it was like, okay, well, we just,
we're going to get, you know,
get to sixty, get your tie break time.
So I was judging her.
And before we started, I was like, okay,
so like,
We can e-mom this, you know,
like you just better get a decent tie
break time and then we'll kind of finish
it off after that or whatever.
And she kind of went, okay, sure.
Three, two, one, go.
She did sixty unbroken double dumbbell
hang squat cleans in like three minutes
and forty nine seconds.
would have to then take a nap before
i proceeded on to the rest i said
so like shout out to my girl uh
tracy plays on us uh married to one
of my best friends uh her husband jeff
another coach at the gym um
It was bananas to watch, dude.
Cause like every time,
like she got to forty and I was
like, surely she's at.
Nope, we're not putting them down.
OK,
we just gonna keep on going and just
keep on going and just keep on going
and just keep on going.
And so we were talking about it Saturday
morning.
She did that.
friday or thursday she did thursday uh she
had thursday so we're talking about
saturday morning at the gym and like most
of us who were there who were like
you know relatively high level was like i
don't know if i could do that and
i don't know if i could do that
with the weights that she used like uh
david reed went three fifty six on his
tie break
You know, on workouts like that,
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That's like home run Derby, uh,
type stuff on Vicki for like a week.
A hundred percent dude.
And look to be to her credit.
She's been, she's been looked softballs,
softballs the entire time.
So that was fantastic.
So I thought today I needed to pick
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and try to find a good way to
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I don't know.
I don't know.
I say,
I don't know how I got along before
it.
I know how I got along for it.
I had crappy sleep most of the time.
So that stuff's a game changer.
Joseph Ramirez workout to broke me.
We broke Corey.
He couldn't use his one hand for like
an hour.
It was weird, dude.
It was so weird.
I think he was like this.
So I redid that one this morning.
I cut two minutes and eleven seconds off
my time and I had full use of
my hands by the time I was done.
Different strategy.
How good of a co-host would you be
if you couldn't do the jazzing?
Yeah, if I can't do jazzing, seriously.
Yeah, no.
Reed did that one this morning and had
a completely different rep scheme and was
way more manageable.
And my judge was like,
I had to make sure that you had
like –
was just going so smooth the entire time
and i was like well that was kind
of the point so i'm pretty excited about
that i think that's the key to that
workout i watched jamie's workout it
looked like a stroll in the park yeah
i don't know like a stroll in the
park maybe central park after midnight um
Yeah.
That's how I felt to the park.
Yeah.
Where the methods hang out.
A hundred percent.
Like I'm, I don't,
I wouldn't say I was fighting for my
life necessarily, but when I got done,
I was very,
very happy to be done like that.
At least you're not on that side of
the park where the guys are waiting for
you in the toilet stall for you to
come in and, you know,
that could be bad.
That could be bad.
No, but I'm pretty,
I'm pretty happy overall.
Um,
Just waiting on one at this point.
And I hate waiting.
I'm not a big fan of waiting.
So I'm going to need this next couple
of hours pass through pretty quick.
Uh, Joseph Ramirez, if I miss semis,
it will be because I bombed on workout
too.
Dude, you, Joseph is fit, man.
He's really fit.
Joseph is one hundred percent fit.
Yeah.
And the Glintons aren't done, man.
They've got one more show today at one
thirty.
Will Plummer is finishing up
quarterfinals.
It was supposed to be this morning.
I was ready to be tuned in.
I catch up on that right before I
came on here and then it went away.
So I don't know.
Nothing like wait until the last lap.
Will's like changing his tires with ten
laps to go, man.
Yeah.
oh, shit, I'm about out of fuel.
I need to come in and make a
stop right quick.
Like, like, it's not great.
It's not great.
Look, well, I'm just saying, love you,
bro.
I hope you smash it.
But I don't remember which one is he
doing?
Oh, wait,
just from your mind was like a stroll
downtown Albany.
Some of Hitler's some of Hitler's people.
Yeah.
Uh,
watching the boys do four different rep
schemes and finished within ten seconds of
each other was interesting that it's such,
it's such a,
a cool concept because there are such
similar athletes.
Yeah.
So with,
with a group of four like that,
that are all kind of the same,
same animal to,
to watch that happen was really,
really cool.
Another person taking a late lap pit stop.
Just did last quarter final workout,
blew up my Achilles and calf on the
last round of second barbell.
So pissed, pissed, crusty other three.
I hope we're not talking tear.
Yeah, I hope we're not.
I hope we didn't build.
I hope we're just talking like a strained
sprain.
I'm going to need a little bit of
clarification there, John George.
Please tell me you did not build Leahy
and actually blow it out because that's
not good at all.
Yeah, we don't need any of that.
No, sir.
David Reed,
I enjoyed seeing how the others attacked
the workouts.
Joseph Stalmore,
dog technique for strict handstand pushups
was interesting.
Yeah.
Duke can do a child's pose right into
a handstand.
That's talent.
I didn't get to see any of that.
Oh, my God.
You have to go back and watch it.
Just fast forward to the handstand
push-ups.
He sent me his videos.
I will go check them out.
That's not a party trick.
Yeah.
Can you imagine being at a party,
looking over against the wall,
and there's Joseph doing child's pose?
And then, whoop, up he goes.
That's pretty cool, Joseph.
Like,
only the CrossFit geeks in the place would
be like, yeah, that was all right.
Everybody else would be like,
what is he doing?
sitting over there in a lump like and
you're thinking well that guy's drunk as
hell right and all of a sudden right
up he goes vicky says you smashed it
joseph and that beard game is on point
his beard is it's amazing honestly there's
got to be superpowers man but but if
the ends touch like it can short circuit
I feel like that's probably a thing.
I'm actually glad they don't touch because
I would hate to see what happened if
it did.
Yeah, it's like battery cables.
You can't let them touch, man.
Live battery cables.
Grace is fifteen forty when Carolyn was
sharing about her athlete code last night.
I was thinking I wish the games team
had shared that or info earlier already
bought my tickets before I heard you could
support athletes.
Yeah, you can.
All the athletes games,
athletes were given a code and they if
you buy your tickets and put their code
in,
they get ten percent of the proceeds back
to help fund their athletes.
their trip to the games.
Um, and Carolyn's is Prevo.
I need to have her text me that
and put it in.
We just started,
start putting out random Prevo.
Fifteen.
Like,
unless you're a pan check or a Wells,
it's the rest of it doesn't matter.
Why not just Prevost?
Something easy, but it's like Prevost,
something CF Prevost, CF, CFG Prevost.
Vicky,
you got to add an S after the
O and before the T.
So it's C-F-G-P-R-E-V-O-S-T.
Thank you.
Vicky's always picking up my luggage that
I leave behind.
Like,
I don't know if I could do this
show without her.
Probably not at this point.
Because let's be honest,
I'm not picking up anything at this point.
Like, I'm hoping to God somebody helps me.
I finally got the segue on my own
today.
A hundred percent.
So I will go back and put that
in the show notes so you can check
that out after the show.
And I'll put it in going forward until
it's down.
We haven't got an update from John George.
I'm starting to worry.
Yeah,
but none of the athletes got their codes
before sales went public.
Couldn't wait.
I know.
That's a miss.
CrossFit has done a lot of things right
this year.
That's a miss.
That's a miss.
That's a pretty big one.
Like if you're going to give them that,
then why not give them that?
And then, Hey, here's all y'all stuff.
Here's an extra day or two,
like an extra day to a, Hey,
when you, these go live,
encourage people to use them instead of,
Hey, tickets are available.
And then two days later, three days later,
a month later, whatever it is.
Oh, and by the way,
there's codes for people to be able to
buy stuff.
Like,
especially now that we're only a
twenty-year whatever the heck it is.
That's just twenty-year.
I kept wanting to say reunion.
That's not right.
Twenty years of CrossFit games.
Let's go with that.
Right.
Bought my tickets the day they went live.
Didn't hear about the coach until last
night.
ken walters wonder if we you could go
back somehow that's like a hundred and ten
dollars an athlete could have gotten off
my ticket yeah that's messed up kudos to
them for trying to give the athletes
another way to to earn some some money
but like maybe let's not put the cart
before the horse like if that is going
to be the case uh pat asked when
will the crossfit leaderboard be official
for quarterfinals it's got to be after
wednesday because there is no video review
but they did not validate videos or they
did not validate scores automatically.
And then affiliate owners have until
Wednesday night, five PM Pacific,
eight PM Eastern to validate the scores.
Once they're validated,
I think the leaderboard is official.
Yep.
Okay.
Not a tear,
just pain and throbbing up my leg.
All right.
So we could come back from this.
Good.
Glad to hear that, John.
Glad to hear that.
They did the kickback last year too.
Where's Hobart when we need him in the
chat?
Yeah.
They did it last year,
but it was late.
It was when they weren't selling tickets
and they were trying everything in the
world to get tickets sold.
y'all go let's go to Albany who doesn't
want to go to Albany which to be
fair like if I would if that was
in my things to do like I'm going
to go to the CrossFit Games I don't
care where I don't necessarily care where
it's at like as long as it's not
in Iraq in a live war zone you
know or like in the North Pole or
the South Pole or somewhere other
absolutely ridiculous or Cleveland
maybe cleveland um i'm going i'm just
kidding i'm going like it doesn't
necessarily matter where it's at if i'm if
i'm going i'm going it's really where it's
at it's not necessarily okay oh it's in
albany okay cool i guess we're going to
albany new york yeah uh
Iraq, North Pole,
South Pole would make interesting outdoor
events.
It would open up the playbook too for
Dave to come up with.
Snowman making.
Snowball throwing.
Ice cutting probably at some point.
Everybody buy chainsaws and like five
percent of your score is knowing how to
start a chainsaw.
Carolyn would do well.
She would.
She already has her snowshoes and skates
all sharpened up.
Albany was pretty fun.
Actually pretty fun.
A lot of close encounters with athletes
and easy walking except for the whack hill
to vendor village,
which vendor village was lame.
Only complaints.
The vendor village right outside the
entryway, Mike, was awesome.
It just wasn't enough.
And they put like overflow vendor village
up in the media area.
And that was a climb up a hill
and up and around and then up the
escalator and blah, blah, blah.
So yeah,
it was not ideal being in two different
buildings.
But I agree with you.
It was pretty fun.
It had a good vibe.
Albany had a really good vibe as long
as you were there for the CrossFit Games.
I didn't venture out downtown to go eat.
My hotel was outside of downtown.
Um, and honestly,
by the time I got back to my
hotel,
it was too late to go out to
eat.
I was like door dashing everything.
There you go.
Um, Helson, I loved Albany, Albany,
but that was my first ever CrossFit games.
It was a good vibe games, man.
I, I enjoyed it.
Um, um,
Terry, hey,
I heard that Cleveland comment.
It's okay,
I moved from there thirty years ago.
Exactly, you moved from there.
Hey man,
home of the Rock and Roll Hall of
Fame.
Actually,
I've had some good times in Cleveland.
Cleveland rocks!
Cleveland rocks!
I mean, I grew up in Pittsburgh.
They're essentially twin cities.
interesting no one wants to go to
Cleveland because he's in Cincinnati and
they hate each other so anyway Alex Kazan
broke the ice with me the same way
that was super cool too I wasn't going
to say anything she was so nice I
don't know okay
Oh, yeah, was was is cool like that.
I found myself walking next to Haley by
the hotel broke the ice with a convo
about Star Wars.
She is a big fan.
Yep.
How about Oakland?
Probably not.
But you're pretty close to Oakland in San
Jose.
It's a hop and a skip.
I don't think you even have to do
the jump.
So if you want to run through that
park, you probably can.
Oof.
Probably not a great idea.
Probably not a great idea.
All right.
One thing I want to talk about before
we get off here,
and that is yesterday in one of the
lives,
the boys interrupted had the Buttery Bros
do the commentary.
And...
This happened.
Oh, yeah.
Everybody's seen.
Sprague, Dauper, and Dustin.
Yeah.
Who are you picking, Matt?
Well, no.
No,
I don't want to ruin my day of
talking about Pratt.
No,
I don't want to ruin my day of
talking about Pratt.
No,
I don't want to ruin my day of
talking about Pratt.
So, that was said yesterday.
I find some of the compliments
interesting.
Jenna Hauka just said, ooh.
Yeah.
Nick Johnson,
let me show you my big surprised face.
Tristan,
just doing the Iron Man rolling of the
eyes.
Right.
So when I first heard it, I thought,
he's out at a zoo,
probably with his family.
The last thing he wants to do is
jump on a podcast and do that whole
thing.
And I was very,
very kind of forgiving the first time I
heard it.
When I looked at it again and I
saw the hand motion,
it elevated it a little bit for me.
I just don't think he cares what anybody
thinks.
And he's just going to say what's on
his mind.
And it is what it is.
But I've said forever that Rich Froning is
my favorite male CrossFitter of all time.
There's a reason for that.
I love Rich.
I love what he's done for the space.
I love that he preaches the gospel.
And Matt's never going to do that.
Matt never did that when he was there
before.
Your thoughts?
I used to be the biggest Matt Fraser
fan you could possibly find.
I identify with him a lot because I
feel like we had a lot of the
same type mentality when it comes to
stuff.
I'm going to outwork everybody.
You're not going to work harder than I
am when it comes to whatever.
We're both the same size.
Which for me, like being this,
this size and in the way that I
am, um, I liked his attitude.
I liked the fact that he didn't seem
to give a shit what everybody else
thought.
And I liked the fact that he, um,
was out there, not just to win,
but he wanted to dominate every single
time he was on the floor.
So, like, during his reign, you know,
and even leading up to it, well,
so I say leading up to it.
I wasn't in CrossFit on a leading up
to it part.
But looking back over everything,
you know,
you kind of know what his story was.
It's outstanding, right?
It's phenomenal.
Dude's just absolutely ridiculous.
And ever since he retired, he's –
He's so seemingly detached from what's
actually going on here.
And that's fine if you want to do
that.
I understand that.
But you are the head of a programming
company.
You got your hands in a supplement
company.
You got your hands in a shoe company.
All of these things that are related to
the thing that everybody knows who you are
now because of.
nobody knew who matt fraser was and had
it not been for crossfit he would be
an engineer somewhere working at a firm or
working for himself period end of story so
okay go ahead finish the rogan thing i'm
i was same same like you like just
kind of okay whatever you know didn't
really want to talk about it he's on
there with rogan you know trying to look
cool whatever
Every other single thing, dude,
like it just keeps adding on and adding
on and adding on that he doesn't give
a shit about what's going on over here
so long as he's getting paid.
And that bothers me.
So here,
so I really had to kind of step
back, look at it on its whole.
What was awesome about Matt Fraser is he
came into this space and he wasn't like
anybody else.
He didn't give two shits what you thought
of him.
He didn't give two shits if he did
it the way everybody else did.
He was going to do it his way.
And that's what made two thousand
fourteen,
two thousand fifteen and two thousand
sixteen.
Some of the best CrossFit games ever
because he was the villain.
Yeah, he was the anti-rich.
And he came in and he went up
against Rich and Rich beat him in the
last second in fourteen.
Ben Smith beat him in the last second
in fifteen.
And then he finally overcame it all and
beat Ben in sixteen.
That's what we loved about him is that
he was shitting on the standard of what
an athlete was.
He was shitting on all of that stuff.
And that's what made him popular.
And that's what made him big.
And to now expect him to flip that
role in retirement,
I think is asking too much.
He was shitting on all that stuff when
he first got here.
He has not changed.
What's hard for me is one of my,
like Justin Collar is one of my best
friends in the space.
And the fact that he is now part
of HWPO, like stop,
stop sabotaging yourself in the space
today.
But who am I to tell Matt Frazier
to change who he is?
And the other part, and I didn't,
all I've seen is the clip, that clip.
Right.
So to your point,
all I've seen is that clip.
He's eating, being dismissive, whatever.
I don't want to ruin my day by
talking about CrossFit, whatever.
I have no idea what would happen before
then or what happened after then because I
did not watch the stream.
So I have,
Maybe he's just saying,
I'm going to pick somebody and they're
going to get their ass kicked,
so I'm not talking about CrossFit right
now.
I'm eating my lunch.
I'm not talking about CrossFit right now.
Whatever.
Because all he's been doing or asked to
do anytime he's been somewhere is talk
about CrossFit.
So to give him the benefit of doubt
as far as that's concerned,
but it just seems like every time he
gets in front of a camera for something
and they catch him candidly,
that's what comes out.
So I have no idea what the rest
of life looks like.
I have absolutely no idea.
He's a father now.
God only knows how many businesses he's
got going on and whatnot.
So I really have absolutely no idea what
the rest of it is.
I just know that when that happens,
that's the thing that we normally get.
So what I'm saying is I see all
the chat saying, well,
what about the Rogan interview?
What about all these other times, right?
That has been the same Matt Frazier since
he got here as an athlete in twenty
fourteen.
He was the anti establishment.
He didn't come from an affiliate.
He didn't go through the things that
everybody else went through.
And that's why it was exciting because
people either said, hey,
I'm rooting for Darth Vader or hey,
I'm rooting for Luke Skywalker.
because he was anti everything.
He never, never,
he never did the invitationals.
He never did anything to help CrossFit HQ
move this thing forward ever.
So to expect him to now be inconsistent
and be an HQ lover would not be
genuine.
Yeah.
It would,
He never shows up for open announcements.
He never shows up for special events.
He never has, and he never will.
He wasn't asked to be on this broadcast.
He wasn't asked to be on this broadcast.
Yeah.
He was kind of caught off guard.
And there he goes.
um but he was pissed if you need
to go man no no no no that's
somebody just can't drop the mail off my
desk no big deal okay but he was
pissed that he didn't get an invite to
the invitations that was his story five
years after the fact and we all know
that he kept the list of people he
hated to motivate him throughout his
career
I'm Mike DeVito.
I'll give you that consistently a jabroni
when it comes to CrossFit.
That is it.
Exactly.
Mike hit it on the head.
He was a jabroni when he first got
here and he's a jabroni now.
And when you loved him in two thousand
fourteen for him,
how can you now hate him for it
today?
I'll also say this.
As far as him never wanting to represent
CrossFit or whatnot,
I feel like he was representing Matt.
And he's always been representing Matt.
And so to your point,
there's nothing necessarily wrong with
that.
Right?
Do you, bro.
Do you.
And he's perfectly comfortable because you
know that he knows that all of this
is going on.
He can't not.
So he's comfortable with it.
He does not give a shit.
He sleeps well at night on his giant
piles of money.
It's just that I think we as CrossFitters
who hold it near and dear to our
hearts see him, the five-time champ,
two-time second-place guy,
hwp owner whatever whatever whatever it is
the shoe thing the podium thing the
whatever else he's got going on thing you
look at that and you go and it's
hard to disassociate between the two like
you got all this stuff going on that
people that are crossfitters are throwing
money at you for and then somebody asks
you a serious us you know what seems
like a pretty pretty easy question and you
tell everybody to get get bent
SEMA, well, I never liked him,
so he just confirmed why.
That's it.
I made my choice in twenty fourteen.
I wanted Rich to kick his ass then.
Right.
Right.
I rooted for Ben Smith in twenty fifteen.
I made that choice then.
And so.
Let's look at today.
You never see him invited on podcasts
anymore.
I don't I think he I think if
when I think he told enough people know
that they just don't invite him anymore.
He was on our show once,
but here's my thing.
I had him on once.
He was telling the same stories he told
on every other podcast.
So I wasn't able to get anything new
out of him.
Right.
My better interview was when I interviewed
his mother.
I remember you telling me that.
She gave me way more information than he
ever did.
And so like,
he doesn't get those riches voted is
invited on everything.
And every show he does gets shit tons
of views because he has something to say.
It's not the same old story.
It's not.
And he follows the methodology and he
follows the sport closely.
And so he has, it's like he,
when rich talks, people want to listen.
Can't confirm.
I'm going to see Rich Talk.
Literally going to see Rich Talk.
I never want to hear about his not
using a knife to cut food ever again.
That's my point, Mark.
Because he was anti-establishment,
he had a stock set of stories that
he would tell on podcasts,
and they just kept getting repeated.
And if you read his book,
his book were the same stories that he
told on the podcasts.
Well, he's only got so many.
I mean, let's be honest there.
He really does only have so many.
And if you want to get them,
all you have to do is go watch
the documentaries from fourteen,
fifteen all the way through twenty.
Because they're all on there.
Yeah.
Because they feature him on every single
one of those.
from whenever he was second place all the
way through his five in a row.
No rep, Pappy.
He will be linked to CrossFit forever,
whether he wants to or not,
which is actually his choice.
His choice was to come in and make
as much money as he could possibly make
and leave.
He never said he wanted to stick around
and own a gym or do anything.
He said it himself.
a long time ago that once he figured
out you could make money doing this is
when he started winning all the local
comps and just kind of escalated from
there.
Ken Walter, Scott,
you and I are the only ones who
know who EF Hutton is.
There's three of us.
I know who he is.
Yeah.
Um,
With all that being said,
he was a beast competing,
and I miss watching it.
I agree.
Honestly, XIV, XV, and XVI,
my favorite years to watch CrossFit.
Until the recent years when we have no
idea who's going to win,
those were my favorite years to watch
CrossFit.
Wayne,
he was arrogant long before CrossFit.
Fame only amplifies what you already are.
Sometimes.
agree with that for some people if you're
an and now you get money you're an
with money like and you can be you
can be more of an because now you
have money
I think he's an introvert.
I think he just doesn't like being in
the public eye.
I don't think he likes talking to people.
I think he just wanted to come in,
do his thing, win his money,
and go home and be with his family.
And now he has a great family,
and he just wants to spend time with
them at his little camp, retreat,
whatever it is up there in Vermont,
and just ride his pit bikes and have
fun.
I really would be.
I say interested,
I don't really care necessarily,
but I would be interested to see like
how much of this, this type of stuff,
like him happened to be there with buttery
Rose.
He gets coerced into doing right.
Or guilt tripped into doing or whatnot,
where he's just like, fine, I'll go.
And it becomes like a, uh, you know,
uh, I'm only here only here.
So I don't get fined type situation.
Well,
I think this is a factor into yesterday
too.
You know,
him and Hopper didn't end in the best
ways.
Not at all.
Like supposedly it was amicable,
but that was probably just publicly.
Sure.
It feels like he lost a year of
his competitiveness and Hopper was on that
live stream.
And now you're asking Frazier to pick when
one of his failures is out there.
Exactly.
Jody, we never reference a woman's age.
A woman's age.
That's how you say that, Ken.
Because Jody knows who EF Hutton is, too.
She's cultured.
That's why she knows who EF Hutton is.
So, Joseph,
I heard you say this on the stream
on Saturday or Sunday.
Sunday, I think.
I don't think he did twenty because of
O'Keefe.
I think twenty...
the facts were laid out by O'Keefe and
then Frazier made the choice to be one
better than rich.
At the end of the day,
it's Matt's choice.
Push him out to the start line.
Right.
I would say that I would, I would,
I would agree to that.
Yes, he did.
Yes, he wasn't necessarily wanting to do,
but then when he looked at it and
like, Hey bro,
this is your legacy right here.
It's yours to lose.
It's yours to win.
It's yours to lose.
If you don't show up,
you're going to lose.
If you show up, you're going to win.
Like, that's not even a question.
And he went into the games,
and he said this,
like he wanted as much points as humanly
possible.
And by the end,
like the point deficit between him and
Noah was huge.
It was absurd.
It was absolutely absurd.
Uh, I think he had enough,
like the point deficit between the two of
them was enough for him to win again
or something like that.
Like, uh, it was, yeah,
Sam quant was number two that year.
Yeah.
He doubled quant.
Yeah.
Absolutely ridiculous.
Uh, fifth title doesn't count.
No depth of field.
All titles count.
You have to face a season.
Whatever you're up against,
you take that on.
If you win it, you win the title.
Just like the Lakers won the NBA title
in a bubble, they still won the title.
You got to win the test that's put
in front of you.
Yeah.
It is what it is.
It's like saying that the two years Jordan
retired,
the Rockets didn't actually win a
championship because Jordan was just
retired and they're coming back.
That doesn't make any sense.
Mike DeVito,
and that's why Tia's the GOAT.
She will never give it.
She will give it to her last breath
if she thinks she can still win.
Her fire may never flick her out.
Only age will prevent her.
I don't disagree, but that was rich in.
What we have now is the lovable cuddly
rich when he went team anymore,
family man, before he had kids,
that dude was a savagest to you.
A hundred percent, a hundred percent.
Go watch, uh, fittest.
Uh, what is it?
Fittest man in history,
fittest in history, whatever his, yeah,
bro.
They adopted a child and that's the only
reason he didn't just keep winning because
they went and got a baby and he
was like,
I can't be a dad and compete like
this all the time because he knows how
he's built.
He said, I think I can handle team.
So let's go ahead and do that and
still be okay to be.
And he was fit enough to do it
because that just kept happening.
Oh boy,
imagine being an HWPO athlete trying to
make it to the games and you hear
what Matt said over the weekend.
How do I know HWP has my best
interest in mind now when the owner hates
CrossFit?
Well,
the only person I know at HWPO that
has a shot at the games is Alex
Kazan, and she brought Justin with her.
So Justin still has her best interest at
heart.
But I just don't know where you go
from here with that.
You can't have your owner sabotaging
everything moving forward.
Agreed.
Pat, I completely disagree.
Um, I do.
Pat says,
I think it's fair to say that there's
an element of Frazier's existence that
scared rich into retirement.
I think he saw how good Matt could
be.
I don't think Matt rich never backed down
from anybody.
Yeah.
If even before Matt came on the scene,
rich was saying when he has kids,
he can't do what he did before.
He had to take a step back from
competition.
And that's before Matt ever set foot at
the CrossFit games.
You want to know what kind of competitor
Rich was when the one second place medal
they got as a team is the only
medal that's ever been on display at the
Bourne to remind everybody that on the
team of how bad it sucked to get
second place.
Period.
He hung that one up.
The rest of them,
I think they were in a box in
his closet somewhere for the longest time.
We just literally switched to HWPO and was
very excited.
Now I'm kind of whatever.
Arlene, if the programming's good,
the programming's good.
Don't let one jackass ruin it for you.
Yeah.
I wouldn't leave you with this because I
do have to get going for work.
I don't know if you saw Ben Bergeron's
YouTube post.
I can promise you I didn't see anything
with Ben Bergeron.
How I Built the Fittest Man on Earth.
But I saw that.
I saw that.
And it is a well-known fact that Matt
barely set foot in CrossFit New England.
To even put that up as a title,
a thumbnail, a tease,
whatever the hell you want to call it,
is ridiculous.
Nobody loves Ben Bergeron as much as Ben
Bergeron loves Ben Bergeron.
Nobody does.
Maybe we'll talk about that tomorrow.
Maybe I'll take a look at it.
I'm going to go look at it now
because I, but really?
How I Built the Fittest Man on Earth.
I have a headache now.
The sequel is going to be How I
Got to Be Close with the Fittest Woman
on Earth.
Yeah, a hundred percent.
Closer than probably I should have been.
Show me strong.
Show me smart.
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