ITALKYOUWALK

In this episode of I Talk You Walk, 

Early morning gym sessions, and the illusion of immortality through walking. They dive into the chaos of social media detoxes, the pressure to always be productive, and why trying to be a 4AM king might not be worth it. Expect hot takes on emotional validation, socially accepted behaviors that should be cancelled, and why you probably don’t need to delete TikTok to grow. Also on the table: Is speed (the streamer) superhuman? Why influencers suck at apologies The power of ego lifting and gym hype Being mistaken for Ecuadorian And some rogue Would-You-Rathers that no one asked for Grab your headphones, get your steps in (or don’t), and enjoy another wild episode of unfiltered chats, jokes, and very real moments.

What is ITALKYOUWALK?

This is a brand new podcast made by a group of friends who just wanted to get together and chat nothing too serious, just real convos about anything and everything.

Whether we’re talking nonsense, asking random questions, or getting lowkey deep, it’s all just vibes. Stick your headphones in and walk with us. We’ll keep you company.

Momo:

Welcome back to a new episode of I Can't Get Enough Steps. Is gonna Rebrand. This is probably gonna be you're not gonna hit 10 k steps in this episode. I'm sorry. Like, I just wanna let you guys

Sami:

Unless you start walking really fast.

Momo:

You need to be at least five k before this, if I'm honest with you. I think that's that's the main thing now.

Sami:

It's fine. Because what time do you usually look to upload it? Six. 6PM. If you're not on minimum five k, I'm disappointed Yeah.

Sami:

As a human being. Yeah. As human to human, that's quite poor.

Momo:

I mean, issue is, like, every 10 every one k steps that you actually get, you actually decrease you dying from anything by ten

Sami:

percent. Longevity?

Momo:

It actually is, like like, ten percent, by the way. Every one k is ten percent now.

Sami:

I saw that. But then that means, yeah, at what point can I become immortal? You

Momo:

that is that's a very good question. Can't lie to

Sami:

because wait, wait. So every 100 k. A 100 k steps a

Momo:

day Did you see that

Sami:

person? Immortal.

Momo:

Did you see a person? She was doing, like, 30 k steps a day. I saw that on TikTok. Yeah. But you know, no, no.

Momo:

I I saw a woman.

Sami:

But she also does weight training as well, I think, on top of that as well.

Momo:

Yeah. No. These are just normal people. Oh, But there's there's this woman that does about a lot of mukbangs and stuff like that.

Sami:

Okay.

Momo:

No. She she she does 30 k steps every single day and that's how she gets skinny and stuff.

Sami:

But the thing is I'm like, 10 k takes about hour and a half.

Momo:

No. They're they're outside. That's so They're outside more than they're inside.

Sami:

But then surely it's because they don't have a job yet where they have to sit down for like eight odd hours yet. Mhmm. And other commitments, I mean. Can't How do get that many hours

Momo:

of sex time? You know this guy, Jack Eats. Have you seen him?

Sami:

No. Haven't

Momo:

seen He's, like, roided up to the gills, but he does bare steps. And he does, like, bare channeling. Have you seen him? You've probably seen him before. But anyway, this guy, he wakes up at 4AM, and he's on ten k by,

Sami:

like What time is he asleep, though? Ten. Okay.

Momo:

Does he have any other commitments? It's probably mutual stuff.

Sami:

No. No. If you wake up 4AM, fair enough.

Momo:

If you

Sami:

because we could do that technically speaking. Sleep at ten. No. I can't. We as if you wanted to, we could.

Momo:

But you know what I've realized? Doing stuff in the morning because look, these days, I was trying to do the whole morning ting, gym ting, can't do it. I realized it's just not here for me because you literally, like, wake up Yeah. And then oh, wait. You sleep at ten or eleven.

Sami:

It's fine if you can sleep on time.

Momo:

But you're not gonna be able to. You're not gonna have a life like, more okay. Most time, everyone's, like, doing stuff till, like, twelve at least.

Sami:

Like, a motive wise. Yeah.

Momo:

That's the issue, man.

Sami:

I'm It depends. Are you like, unless you're going out with your boys every single day, you can realistically commit to it.

Momo:

No. Because you need to do the same thing every single day. If you mess up your sleep schedule Yeah. You're you're you're screwed. One day, you're screwed.

Momo:

And then

Sami:

because even my

Momo:

so many times, it's gonna be screwed.

Sami:

But then then on my whoop here, like, I got a a new thing that I got is, like, sleep consistency Yeah. And then my Wait.

Momo:

Wait. What did you say? My If they're not sponsoring us, don't say their name.

Sami:

Oh, an episode of four, bro.

Momo:

If it's not sponsored, it's So ask me, Vanquish Fitness sponsor. They just

Sami:

said their names. Why would they sponsor you? You would have given them free promotion.

Momo:

What should I call them?

Sami:

You can't. You have to you have to now blur out the vanquishers, though.

Momo:

No. No. Just just sponsor me, please. Please say your love all your stuff. No.

Momo:

But in the early stages, you have to say their names. Whoop, though. Sleep consistency is 70%,

Sami:

and I get by by my day fine. Really?

Momo:

Yeah. I can't yeah. That's also a thing, ain't it?

Sami:

But it is better to sleep at one specific time range, and that should be, like, within an hour or so every day.

Momo:

Yeah. That's what I do usually. And then

Sami:

I don't do that.

Momo:

I'm not ringing I know. That's that's you. Like, you you're

Sami:

oh, up.

Momo:

Need speak about this. You mean you

Sami:

want to address the elephant in

Momo:

the room? Yeah. He's big. He's huge, actually. Yeah.

Momo:

So as you can see He's gone to the

Sami:

the Just to, like, disclaimer.

Momo:

No. No. He's gone. He's not gone back. In ways that

Sami:

we can't disclose.

Momo:

This man, yeah, he's he's gallivanting on holiday in the Mandena. So he's doing his thing for his community. So we're here

Sami:

Oh, boy.

Momo:

Very candid photo, actually, of him.

Sami:

Most candid photo of him you can find in fact.

Momo:

I think it's one of the best photos I've seen of him, actually. Avril, what was he even doing in that?

Sami:

Come on, brother. You can tell what he's doing in this. This is how he got to ninety plus kg. That's okay, though.

Momo:

He's old. Eating? Yeah. This this is him eating, bro. What's he eating, bro?

Momo:

I wanna eat whatever he was eating.

Sami:

Poor. You look like that when you eat as old, though.

Momo:

Is it because you guys look similar. Similar. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Momo:

I wouldn't say we look alike. No. Like, that alike. No. Like, this this is actually the second time I've heard of this, actually.

Sami:

Of what? That you guys eat?

Momo:

That we look alike, to be honest.

Sami:

I mean, him look alike as well, though. We got the same nose.

Momo:

I I see that. I do actually see that, you know. Thank you. I think the same lips and the if you had the stache I do have the stache. It's gone, bro.

Momo:

You shave it all off. Don't say that. You actually do. Why do you shave your stash off? Do you do you do you prefer

Sami:

stash less? Yeah. You like stash If I could grow a proper goatee, yeah. No. But look.

Momo:

Even for me, I wanna have the stash.

Sami:

If I could be a proper goatee,

Momo:

like a Mexican goatee. Yeah. You look hard.

Sami:

Okay. Carto kind of vibe.

Momo:

Yeah. You look hard. But I can't do that. Look hard.

Sami:

I look more Italian. Yeah.

Momo:

I see that. No. But you your your what's the word? Embiguous. Yeah.

Momo:

Good word.

Sami:

Bro, a guy that Jim said to me, he's like to me, oh, you're definitely from Ecuador. I see. I've never gone Ecuador before. I'm like, no. I'm Bengali.

Sami:

And he's like, no. You're Ecuador. You're lying to me. I'm like, no. Like, he was so insistent.

Sami:

I'm Ecuadorian. That is I've never had Ecuador before. I've had Malaysian. I get Malaysian Mexican a lot.

Momo:

I see the the the Malaysian and

Sami:

the Mexican. Yeah.

Momo:

I think it's because of the goatee, though.

Sami:

Because the goatee.

Momo:

You know what you should do when And I've got and

Sami:

I'm quite chinky, so I get Malaysian. What what did you say?

Momo:

That I got I'm quite, like, horizontally no. Horizontally challenged. Yeah.

Sami:

Get not I'm just horizontally configured.

Momo:

You're right. You're right. You know, wait. Let me get to my first topic anyway. No.

Momo:

I really wanna get to my first topic.

Sami:

Firstly

Momo:

One question. Wait. I actually want to ask this question of

Sami:

you. Okay.

Momo:

Okay. You can get to wherever you wanna get to Okay. After. I wanted to get one question. Okay?

Momo:

I was thinking about this. Right?

Sami:

I like when you think, you know that.

Momo:

I do often. I actually

Sami:

Too often?

Momo:

Yeah. And I should stop in it. Next week, there's no thinking, by the way. I'm never gonna think again. But what's a and you're a very controversial person.

Momo:

I'm not controversial at all. Very controversial. So I wanted to ask you this question now. What's something that's con like, socially accepted but is very controversial? Socially accepted but very controversial?

Momo:

No. But, like, in in

Sami:

the acceptance

Momo:

Like, something that's got, like, like, socially accepted but you don't agree with it in a sense. Yeah.

Sami:

Saying goodbye to each other.

Momo:

I could've I could've, like, wedded this bad. Yeah. Unpopular opinions that might get you cancelled.

Sami:

I just cancelled. No question. About if it get me cancelled, though?

Momo:

Okay. Just unpopular opinion then.

Sami:

Introductions? I've already spoken about this. Yeah. I think that's a bit a bit I want

Momo:

something new. I want something new about you. I want them to get to know you.

Sami:

I want them to get to know me.

Momo:

I want them to get to know you.

Sami:

Something I don't know, man. Top of my head, I can't think of one.

Momo:

Really?

Sami:

Yeah. Have one top of head. Yeah. I do. Go on.

Momo:

I do. Okay. One thing okay. I don't despise

Sami:

Or would you get cancelled for it? No. That sounds good. I don't think

Momo:

But I've I've told you this before. When people try to sympathize with something okay. If I'm telling you I'm going through this, this, and this. Right? Yeah.

Momo:

And someone goes to me, yeah, man. You know, I went through the same exact thing and this and that. When people do that to me to make me feel better, they've they've gone through similar thing with me.

Sami:

I wanna say that's socially acceptable though. Think that's I think I think that's a lack of emotional intelligence though.

Momo:

No. But a lot of people Yeah. Go like, they will sympathize with your pain

Sami:

Yeah.

Momo:

By telling you, oh, I went through the same thing. So don't worry. You're not alone.

Sami:

I don't think that's just them being a bad listener though. Because in that situation, you just want them to, like, listen to you.

Momo:

How often how often do people do that to you?

Sami:

I'm not saying that it's not a common thing. It is a common thing.

Momo:

It's the only thing that people do.

Sami:

I said I said the average person doesn't necessarily have a high emotion intelligence anyways.

Momo:

A 100%. I agree with that. Yeah. But what I'm saying is that from whenever I've told someone about my problems, they've gone straight to I've gone through similar things.

Sami:

What was they do? I saw a, like, they're like YouTuber, Anna Arcana, something like that. No. She was saying once, like, how you should actually if someone's got a problem, they come to you with a problem, the way you should actually deal with it is don't try to fix the problem. Because a lot people, they'll tell you, oh, I think you should do this, you should do that, but you're not looking for a solution to your problem.

Momo:

You're just trying

Sami:

to invent something. Especially if it's like something emotional, and there is not necessarily an actual fix for it. Yeah. They just just want again, you just want to you just wanna speak. And let you know, like, you just wanna be validated in a sense, whereas they might look to

Momo:

But that's their validation is what I'm

Sami:

saying. Exactly.

Momo:

Their validation is them them saying to me, I've gone through the same exact thing. I'm like, I don't care. Look, I do no. No. I genuinely do not care what they've gone through cause it doesn't make a difference.

Momo:

I'm going through the pain right now. That was in the past for you. Why why would I why would it make me feel any better that you're going through the same pain I'm

Sami:

going through? Think more it's more of an awkward thing but like they feel awkward That they don't do something. Yeah. They have to say something. They don't know what to say.

Sami:

Yeah. But they say you're not alone. You know what? That's just some Naruto bullshit. No?

Momo:

Bro, it's like

Sami:

Everything comes back to how bad Naruto is.

Momo:

Okay. Oh, so it's not bad.

Sami:

Was going was in your top five. My bad, man.

Momo:

It wasn't in my top five.

Sami:

Was literally literally says top five.

Momo:

But it built me up as a No. I'm just kidding. No. It was my first time in May, ain't it?

Sami:

You're a work colleague, by the way.

Momo:

Oh, yeah. We haven't seen each other since last week,

Sami:

innit? Exactly.

Momo:

I was about to say that. Yeah. Work colleagues now. I'm gonna be Ethan now. I hate you.

Momo:

Unlike the old, bro. We're we're a colleague. You are not we're not friends.

Sami:

I can't believe you and Ahmed. Yeah. He's on big terms. His name's Ahmed.

Momo:

Don't see that, bro.

Sami:

He's not here to defend himself. His name is Ahmed.

Momo:

Yeah. His name is Ahmed.

Sami:

This is a let me Gimmick went off for three episodes. I'm tired of that. His name is Ahmed. Yeah. A h m e d.

Sami:

Wait. Don't spell out his name. You know what? Bleep this out. Bro.

Sami:

That ducks too right now,

Momo:

That's doxing. Me as well. You're ducks ing me. No. They don't live together.

Momo:

This friendly fire. This is friendly fire.

Sami:

Live together.

Momo:

No. I'm living for the time being because my house got is getting renovated.

Sami:

Okay. But why do guys live together?

Momo:

Thought you just look alike. No. We're passing by,

Sami:

ain't it? Like, are you are you guys related?

Momo:

No. Not at all. Why would he be going on with not me then? Come on, man. Let's let's just stink here.

Sami:

Anyways, I can't believe you two have been sitting on these chairs all the recline like this here. Yeah. I've been locked in.

Momo:

Yeah. I don't know what you said. What is this? Korean? Nah.

Sami:

It's Japanese. What? It means lock in twin.

Momo:

You're actually on TikTok way too much. I know you got that on TikTok as well, bro. No, man. I can't I can't I can't deal with you. But

Sami:

Oh, why are you why are you

Momo:

two you guys have talked to your videos like this. I can't like you. I didn't know.

Sami:

Because I

Momo:

I didn't know how good the chair was when when you had

Sami:

You're just locked off. That's why you two just bang shitting them, bitch, nonchalant. This is why you got some some mad nonchalant gimmick.

Momo:

Yeah.

Sami:

And I'm there like

Momo:

Yeah. I I I heard that Big Tam wasn't speaking

Sami:

as is a Big Tam, bro.

Momo:

Okay. Ahmed wasn't speaking as much last episode. It was because of these chins. Do you really expect someone to speak

Sami:

when when they're chilling? Sleep right now.

Momo:

Yeah. Go to sleep, man. I'll I'll deal with it. Now two men are gone. Also, if if this episode does well, he's dead.

Momo:

He's gone. Get touched. Okay. Yeah. Touch touch his nose.

Momo:

Yeah. He likes it. He probably feeling

Sami:

it now. Good boy. Sir. Yeah.

Momo:

Go again. What is that then? Is that what they do? Oh, no, man. Like but anyhow, about wait.

Momo:

Wait. How do say

Sami:

Why does it say Chinese though?

Momo:

Yeah. That's what it sounds. It sounds no. You said the Japanese. That sounds Chinese.

Sami:

Is that Chinese? I don't know

Momo:

why though. It does.

Sami:

I'm pretty sure it's Japanese though.

Momo:

No. That actually sounds really Chinese.

Sami:

Isn't it? But I'm fairly certain it was Japanese though. The guy looked You know you

Momo:

know, speaking of TikTok and stuff, right, you know what I hate?

Sami:

And I hate this. Is this another will it get cancelled though? Be careful, bro. No. Chew.

Sami:

Chew. Chew.

Momo:

No. Because I I think this is people people would take offense to this though.

Sami:

That's fine.

Momo:

I think it's good to offend some people.

Sami:

Cross my legs. Go on.

Momo:

Hate gives you more attention. And if this goes

Sami:

Are you one of them people that that say like what's the word, man?

Momo:

Any tension is good attention.

Sami:

Yeah. Yeah. I hate that phrase, know. No. Yeah.

Sami:

That's cold.

Momo:

That's bulldo. Like, you're a you're a hoe. Like,

Sami:

just Yeah. No. That's a scope, though. No? Is it?

Sami:

I think it's ego as well. Like, you because you're just trying to, like, oblique

Momo:

Oh, it's a 100% cult.

Sami:

100 cult. Common man.

Momo:

Like Why would you want to be

Sami:

Hated and something. Like, come on.

Momo:

If you get to a a level, then hate and whatever, like, it doesn't matter kinda thing, ain't it?

Sami:

Hate that. But it depends on that. If it's genuine hate because you've done something bad, you can't just say, oh, yeah.

Momo:

Have you done something illegal or, like, some something unethical? Unefficial. Yeah. I don't mind.

Sami:

Like, just own up to it. Apologize and move on, bro.

Momo:

But most of the time, when you apologize something online, they hate you for more. It's like, oh, it wasn't genuine. It wasn't But but Sometimes you just have to leave

Sami:

Bro, admittedly speaking though, a lot of these influencers, when they do apologize Yeah. They have terrible apologies. Yeah. Bro, I don't know which influencer it was here.

Momo:

Bro, the Paul.

Sami:

No. It wasn't her.

Momo:

The Paul.

Sami:

It was another guy.

Momo:

And he was the Pauls.

Sami:

Jake Pauls never had to apologize. He never had to Speaking of But she no. But she apologized as an interpretive dancing. Like, she did an interpretive dance.

Momo:

I saw that. What was her name? It was years

Sami:

ago, though.

Momo:

No. I remember who I remember she had the big nose.

Sami:

I have no idea,

Momo:

but She's

Sami:

like, no. Sorry, die.

Momo:

Yeah. She had a big nose. I don't remember who she was, but she had a big nose. She was one of the TikTok people. Yeah.

Momo:

No. Not TikTok. Vine. Vine people.

Sami:

The Vine? I don't know.

Momo:

Yeah. Is that so wrong when She got canceled so hard. I'm like, on, bro.

Sami:

Just just be real with it. Just speak. Like because I

Momo:

won't genuineness gets you far now.

Sami:

Oh my god. There's like a format for apology videos on YouTube. Yeah. But it's like, you turn on you you do the whole clipping of You turn on the finger.

Momo:

You know, you look at I'm sorry. No. No. That's I've been very

Sami:

They set up the camera themselves and they show you that part of you setting up the camera, sit back And

Momo:

then it it goes it goes off you It goes it goes a little bit blurry. Yeah. Like this is like, I've made a

Sami:

great Yeah. Like you wait

Momo:

for the camera to focus. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So done.

Momo:

Was looking poor though. Yeah.

Sami:

No. No. No. Was formats. Other guys are doing that same format.

Sami:

Yeah. Like just making it

Momo:

And I I I mean, a lot of people got canceled around that time as well. Yeah. But speaking of anyway, we we I digress so hard. I was I was gonna talk about how people cope when they're trying to detox from, like, TikTok or Instagram. Like, they'll be like No.

Sami:

No. No. It's TikTok, but then they get Instagram real.

Momo:

Pretty much. They're like they're like, no. I I I'm too mature. I don't wanna be on TikTok anymore

Sami:

That's point.

Momo:

Because I'm not focusing on whatever. You will waste time if you waste time. Like, you will find something to waste time. And it's not a bad thing realistically, ain't it? Like, if you get whatever you need done in a day, then I don't see it as a big problem if you're on this and that.

Sami:

Yeah. A 100%.

Momo:

Because because it's sort of like when you're scrolling mindlessly, you're kind of switching your brain off, which is fine I think. I think that it becomes a problem when you're using it to not do anything else and, like, really procrastinate. But you would do that through series. You do that through let's say, you you have to have a really, like, annoying conversation with someone. Yeah.

Sami:

Because people will procrastinate regardless.

Momo:

That's what I'm saying. Yeah. So what's you doing in TikTok?

Sami:

Can actually learn quite a decent stuff from TikTok, to be fair.

Momo:

100%. Yeah. But it's not

Sami:

about Newskeeping or whatever.

Momo:

Even about, like Yeah. The learning. They think that that's the reason why they're not doing no. It's because of you.

Sami:

Yeah.

Momo:

Get up. Pay your steps in.

Sami:

I think there's there's too much, like, emphasis on being productive. Like, it's fine to not also be productive, like, enjoy your life, switch off, and never enjoy your life. You can switch off. It's fine. You don't have to feel guilty about it.

Sami:

Yeah. Just So I just laid there, man.

Momo:

You can chill. Like Yeah.

Sami:

You can chill.

Momo:

I feel like we're we're we're also in this, like, high of, like, fitness and stuff like that, and everyone needs to be so productive. You need to wake up at 4AM.

Sami:

You don't.

Momo:

Like, you don't need to do

Sami:

all Ashton Hall, bro. You don't have to dip your face in water. Just wake up normally.

Momo:

Five minutes. Five minutes of dipping your

Sami:

face in water. Was that a terrible Oh, it's five minutes of diving in the air against the pool.

Momo:

I feel like Ashton Hall was kind of going a little bit down now, you know. He he took like two two three l's, like, in a row. I know. I I don't think he's going down, but he he took a few l's like, Modine, like, came up to him.

Sami:

I know. That was that was thing with the common man. He thinks that guy's banging judge on him. Gonna stab him.

Momo:

No. Don't. Yeah. He he thought he thought he gonna get shot. Yeah.

Momo:

Okay. Okay. A bit of a weirdo. You know what? Ashton with Ashton Hall

Sami:

because Maudine is the weirdo, bro.

Momo:

Okay. Maudine, we we we already know his He's too extra. Yeah. He's tapped. He's tapped.

Momo:

But I'm talking about, like, Ashton Hall doesn't have, like, a personality in a sense. Like, he's too, like, locked in.

Sami:

But I think that's just that's just their personality, though. They are like that.

Momo:

No. But I think it's because of the fact that he's doing, like

Sami:

because he's he's been news for a while.

Momo:

I didn't know. I don't I don't know when he actually, like, blew up as much.

Sami:

That's that's just social media. Just randomly go viral.

Momo:

I know, man. You you get one video and just like

Sami:

That's how it pretend.

Momo:

But then

Sami:

he's getting, like, a million followers on Insta, like, every week. An extra mil, extra mil, extra mil.

Momo:

He's making way too

Sami:

much money. He's probably I won't I don't I haven't checked in a while, he's on 16 mil at one point.

Momo:

Ice I did follow him. I did. Yeah. I did follow him

Sami:

just as everyone else is following. Exactly.

Momo:

Yeah. I shouldn't hold, man. That that that guy has do you think he's doing drugs or steroids or something?

Sami:

No. He I think he's premature. I think he's already admitted to doing roids anyways.

Momo:

Man, never doing roids.

Sami:

But the thing is that he's fast, though. For for that size of a man, he's very fast.

Momo:

The speed beating, man, unfortunately.

Sami:

Oh, but come on. Speed weighs, like, so

Momo:

much is speed so you know what

Sami:

it is? You know what? Speed is a natural athlete though, regardless.

Momo:

But why is he so fast though? He's black, bro. No.

Sami:

I'm because even look at his backflip. His backflip looks like he's like floating in there.

Momo:

No. But people look. Normal people will be able to like, if if there was like a random person on the street, let's say, he would be able to no. He wouldn't be able to do this. But if he was able to do any of these things, he wouldn't be able to do get to the feats that speed is.

Momo:

And I I generally think What this

Sami:

feet would you what are

Momo:

talking about? Like beating a lot of these people. Right?

Sami:

Oh, okay.

Momo:

Yeah. Like and I think it's because there's cameras on him. I think the same thing with, like, anyone that has cameras on them, it pushes you to a level where people are watching. You need to go. Some level 100%.

Momo:

You need to do it. So

Sami:

he pushes a natural athlete regardless. 100%. Whether there's camera on him or not.

Momo:

Yeah. I agree. But I think the camera pushes people to do, like, even better and better and not give up because I think

Sami:

It's actually work out when you work out with your friends that Yeah. There's an extra, like, at least 20%

Momo:

boost in strength. Oh my god. Is yeah. 100%. How are we ego lifting?

Momo:

No.

Sami:

You're ego lifting, though. You're you're getting them reps, though. What do you mean? Ego lifting is only if it's bad form.

Momo:

I guess so, but I I feel like

Sami:

And you're not getting injured from it either? Yeah. But Like, journey lifting more of your friends, and that's power of friendship. That goes back to fairy I know a lot of mans hate fairy tale, but power of friendship does exist.

Momo:

You know, I never watched that last

Sami:

Same. I watched, like, most of it.

Momo:

It was like some it was like was too intense of running

Sami:

back into

Momo:

plainly. But Yeah, man. It's what were you even talking about? Where did we go back from?

Sami:

That's your job, bro. I don't wanna be involved in pre or post production.

Momo:

You just me. So what were you gonna be involved in? I'm gonna be part of? The production. Yeah.

Momo:

Right? Yeah. Production. Oh. This is a production.

Momo:

This is process. Oh, yeah. Social media detox, bro. Yeah. Absolute bullcrap.

Momo:

I want you guys to actually

Sami:

do that. But but to be fair, if you do a proper social media detox, not like TikTok, and then you instead of TikTok, you go to Instagram Reel. If you do an actual social media detox, it does feel mad.

Momo:

Oh, wait. You've done that, ain't it? I've done that. Yeah. Well, you were gone for, a month.

Sami:

Yeah. But I was still on, like, social media somewhat, but not as much as I would be beforehand. Yeah. And then when I came back to The UK, I felt weird to be, like, on social media for a while. I'd say for,

Momo:

like, a few weeks. But what's what's the feeling like?

Sami:

It's hard to it's like I I felt like I was, like, reborn. I felt so, like, clean.

Momo:

Did it feel new to you again?

Sami:

It felt new to me again. Yeah. I felt like I was I was starting on a fresh slate and I couldn't I couldn't figure out what

Momo:

Why did it get back on? Well, did you think it was a bad thing or a good thing? Nothing It

Sami:

was a bad I just couldn't figure out what that feeling was till I started googling it and it was like, oh, it's because you had a detox. Was like, oh, that's mad. I think it's hard to maintain that anyways though because

Momo:

And social media

Sami:

As soon as you get me It's everywhere, bro. You can't Yeah. Especially if you're getting upset memes, whatever, you wanna look at it or whatever.

Momo:

You need to be, like, on it. I felt like

Sami:

Do you have do you have conversations?

Momo:

Do you have conversations? You need to, like, know all the okay. The main trends, I would say.

Sami:

But what about the brain rot stuff, though?

Momo:

You. You love your brain rot stuff.

Sami:

It's not just me, though. Because Naj as well, he knows when whenever Naj mentions a trend a reference, sorry, I always get it, and he knows I'll always get his reference to Azo and likewise. For some people, it's always like the reference, you get it.

Momo:

It's fun, I would say. It's fun as

Sami:

always.

Momo:

Because because we we all know the same exact thing, and then you kind of have, like, similar

Sami:

Similar interesting. Similar humor.

Momo:

Yeah. Similar humor is is is very important. Yeah.

Sami:

But It's just funny to talk talk about it sometimes.

Momo:

I was gonna actually I had so many questions in my head, man. Because, you know, obviously, we're we're colleagues in it. So haven't spoken to you in a whole week, know. But would you know you know you know when, like, things are going well, do you feel like they shouldn't be? Like, not in the sense that you need, like, some kind of

Sami:

You mean, like, it depends because there's are you talking about impostor syndrome? Are you talking No.

Momo:

Like, let's say things are going super well. Yeah. Super well. Then sometimes you're just like, as human beings, I feel like we're very, like we sabotage ourselves a lot. 100%.

Momo:

So do do you actively do do you feel like you sabotage yourself? Like, what my question is.

Sami:

I wanna say I try sabotaging myself, but I do it's hard to say I enjoyed because, like, if you look at life as I get heart rate monitor, I got I wouldn't necessarily say I'd like the ditches that much.

Momo:

Just looking at my friend. Dear friend.

Sami:

I wouldn't necessarily say that I let you because no way you enjoy the lows in life. There's no way you do. But then I do I don't know, man. Like, I don't want things to be too euphoric. I don't want, like, things just always going your way.

Sami:

I like a little bit of, like, spanner in the way. Though. I don't know. I'm not That's

Momo:

what I'm saying. As a human being, I feel like a lot of us, like, tend to just be, like, self sabotages, man. It's it's actually just peak. But let me get into some woody riders. Oh, man.

Momo:

Got some good woody riders.

Sami:

Because because last time, your woody riders were rather questionable, I'd say. Yeah. That's why it's it's a question. No. No.

Sami:

No. But questionably bad.

Momo:

I got views for them, though.

Sami:

Still bad, though. Still good. Now but now you're going back to any attention good attention.

Momo:

But I feel like they were good. That's why I asked them. At first. Anyhow, would you okay. Would you rather only be able to whisper or only be able to shout?

Momo:

Everything you say.

Sami:

I'd say whisper.

Momo:

Whisper into the microphone every single day. So you're you're there,

Sami:

like, I just would I just would make sure that I see people in person every day.

Momo:

You're a loud person.

Sami:

How what what in what

Momo:

what world would you whisper? I've I haven't heard your voice below 25 decibels in about ten years.

Sami:

What the hell? But just because just because also, I'm not loud. I'm I'm the loudest when it's The mic's right here.

Momo:

Sorry. Don't need to jump.

Sami:

I'm the

Momo:

loud. Yeah.

Sami:

I just You're

Momo:

grooving, by the way.

Sami:

Also, yeah. Also, yeah. What I've just been shouting, though. I don't I don't wanna always be shouting. But you do anyway.

Momo:

So what what what what would what difference would it make? The fact that you say whispering is crazy. You know, do you hate yourself? Is that what it is? Are you are you, like, self conscious about about you?

Sami:

Do mean you hate yourself?

Momo:

Me? Yeah. Do I hate myself? Do you

Sami:

hate yourself? Hate myself. Yeah. But then if you ask a centipede, yeah, because centipede has several legs here. Okay.

Sami:

If you ask a centipede, yeah, oh, how do you walk on so many legs? Just do it. And then centipede just bugs out because now it's consciously thinking about

Momo:

Yeah. A bug picture. Be able to speak a centipede. So this this So what I'm saying Example, it doesn't make sense.

Sami:

Do you mean? Okay. Fine. The context is actually another bug asks a centipede because obviously bug language is the same language. So and I'm not sure how the human sound out.

Momo:

Wait. Wait. Wait. Did you did you Do

Sami:

all you not bugs speak the same language?

Momo:

I don't think they speak.

Sami:

They do speak. They literally do speak. You literally hear them. What are you talking about? We just can't understand it.

Sami:

Yeah.

Momo:

But they have different sounds. So how would they you a cat doesn't

Sami:

speak like saying, yeah, a black man can't understand a white man.

Momo:

They can't. You can. They can't. I've never understood a white person in my

Sami:

You literally speak to a white person. Who? Far Khan, your colleagues

Momo:

He's not

Sami:

general public.

Momo:

He's not white. Fine. A black

Sami:

man and a brown man.

Momo:

No. I can understand you. You're close to me.

Sami:

No. It doesn't matter.

Momo:

You are.

Sami:

Because a centipede and a, I don't know, similar insect to that. Like a cockroach is similar. No. Yes, they are.

Momo:

They don't have enough leg. We both have two legs. And a nose, and you look very similar to him.

Sami:

What does that have to do with a centipede and a cockroach?

Momo:

Look. They're different. Like like, we we both have hearts.

Sami:

Right? We have the

Momo:

same reproductive system to

Sami:

do it. So are you saying

Momo:

They don't.

Sami:

Okay. So why can't you speak to a another mammal then? Like a dolphin? They don't because dolphins are some why can't

Momo:

you speak to a monkey? I can't.

Sami:

Can you un sign a monkey? Yeah.

Momo:

You're just feeding into stereotypes now and racism. Yeah. Maybe I shouldn't

Sami:

do that. And you just completely derailed my sentipi point, man.

Momo:

Because it doesn't make sense.

Sami:

It does. You just you just derailed it.

Momo:

Okay. No. No. Okay. Know?

Momo:

No. You don't

Sami:

want to

Momo:

go to the whisper. Wait.

Sami:

Wait. Wait.

Momo:

Did you just put your hand on?

Sami:

Whisper. Okay.

Momo:

Speak into the microphone. That's that's how you're gonna

Sami:

I'm gonna start whispering from now

Momo:

on. This is now an ASMR channel, by the way.

Sami:

I'm gonna start whispering from now on.

Momo:

Bro, I saw ASMR is so weird to me, man. It's actually such a weird

Sami:

thing. Because you

Momo:

You actually like ASMR.

Sami:

I enjoy it, but I don't enjoy every type of ASMR. There is an ASMR for you. You just haven't found it.

Momo:

I'm not gonna go No.

Sami:

I'm I'm telling you right now. If you were on YouTube right now and did, can I expand ASMR, you would enjoy that?

Momo:

I wouldn't you know, a lot of people go to sleep with it. Do you have trouble sleeping?

Sami:

I don't. So But to be fair

Momo:

When when do you listen to it?

Sami:

I do need an AC on. I don't particularly need it, but I do like it. Like white noise to sleep to.

Momo:

I personally like brown noise.

Sami:

You know, you can buy a white noise machine. I like brown noise.

Momo:

White noise doesn't do

Sami:

for me. I'm brown. I'm making noise. Should I just come to your bed and let them know?

Momo:

Yeah, please. Like, I want you next to me. You're just going

Sami:

Can't make that's not that's not part of my vocal range.

Momo:

No. So whatever you wanna do, just please.

Sami:

I'll I'll tell you it's a brown noise. I'll stick to it.

Momo:

Yeah. But brown noise is sort of different to white noise. White noise is more staticky. Brown noise is a bit like you know, imagine imagine you're in a car. You remember back in the day when you used to come back home from somewhere.

Momo:

Right? Yeah. You'd be in a car and you're just like and then you just put your head on, like, the window.

Sami:

And that sound? Yeah. That's that's pretty much

Momo:

For brown some reason, whenever I put brown nose on, it's locked in. Get a lot

Sami:

Brown noise is so voidy though.

Momo:

I don't know what you mean. Have you tried all the noises together?

Sami:

No. What's that going crazy? It's it's brown white. White. What's pink noise?

Sami:

No. I know. It's not that good. Okay. But what is it though?

Momo:

How am supposed to explain the noise, bro?

Sami:

Because you you just explained brown noise. Oh,

Momo:

you're right. But I don't I I don't understand pink. Like like, I can't yeah. It's just it's not for me, man. Such a weird noise to me.

Sami:

That's how too many chefs spoil the broth. You can't mix that all together.

Momo:

They mixed everything together and I was like, why would you do this to me? Like, I actually felt Well, what do you

Sami:

do you like white noise,

Momo:

No. Ever since I've gotten brown noise?

Sami:

Are you saying you don't like it, That's different to, like, not minding it.

Momo:

No. Just don't like it. K. I don't like to stag. It it it it doesn't it doesn't do it for me, man.

Sami:

Because like air condition or a hoover, that's white noise basically. Yeah. Why would

Momo:

I listen to a hoover? That's the issue, man. Mhmm. That is. Yeah.

Sami:

So A hoover's a bit more louder than an AC, I'd say. That's that's my white noise, an AC.

Momo:

I need an AC. This heat has been killing me.

Sami:

UK heat is different as well. Americans love saying it's not. Yeah. Even though their country is built for heat. Look how The UK is built.

Sami:

Double glazing. We've got no AC. Bricks. It traps we're a we're a small island as well. Yeah.

Sami:

It's awful, man. Americans, whenever whenever we we get a heat wave, they always laugh at us on Twitter. Yeah. It's Or x.

Momo:

To be honest, these I've I've seen some videos of people cooking eggs on top of, like, their bonnet or something.

Sami:

In America?

Momo:

Yeah. And, like, I think it's in Texas.

Sami:

Again, like, their homes are built Yeah. To, like, exception.

Momo:

Should be And

Sami:

they got AC everywhere.

Momo:

My home, today, when I went inside, it was actually colder than outside. Usually, it's the other way around, to be fair. It's because I got a draft in my room. And because of that, winter is awful. But

Sami:

But it's because your room is also on the ground. Not a basement, but on the first Okay.

Momo:

Like, actually, I want people to understand this. Right? My house is like on a hill. So I will go inside through my door and my garden's upstairs. And I never knew that I was actually weird till I start telling people that my garden's upstairs.

Momo:

So people think that my garden is actually levitating. It's not. I'm just on a hill and there's a train line behind it. So all the houses are on a hill and we're all our gardens are on the same hill. It doesn't but look, you you've seen it.

Sami:

I've seen it but I still I've I've more accepted it, like agree to disagree with your house rather than understand it.

Momo:

The thing is it's just how it's built in it. I generally thought it was normal. When people are like, wait, you're in the basement?

Sami:

No. That's not in the basement. That's the thing.

Momo:

No. People thought that my I come through the basement and go

Sami:

upstairs. To be fair, there are houses like that where it's like, you know how you you see the front door and then you can go downstairs, there's another house might be another house there.

Momo:

Yeah. I've seen that. But my my house is just literally one house. I go upstairs, my garden's there. And, yeah, I think you just gotta see it to to actually The worst

Sami:

the worst is an attic. That because heat rises. Like, sleeping in is so bad.

Momo:

I don't know how people do it, man. So bad. It's I I because the

Sami:

hottest room Yeah.

Momo:

Your hottest room is the summer,

Sami:

isn't it? As the coldest room in the winter. It's you can't win sleeping in

Momo:

Never gonna win, man. Let me get to the next with you, Adam, because we just digressed hard, bro.

Sami:

Feel mentioned the digressions too much. Like, why are you pointing them out for? It's like you hate them.

Momo:

I don't hate them. So why you singling them out for, Sorry. Sorry. If if I heard digressions is is

Sami:

Every every every because digression is a type of conversation. Every conversation matters. We're here to be inclusive.

Momo:

What does inclusivity mean to you?

Sami:

Inclusive means being accepting of all.

Momo:

Are you acceptable? Most people. Really? Yeah. Woah.

Momo:

Woah. Oh, I might get you canceled. Maybe maybe I shouldn't ask that. No. That's fine.

Momo:

Indigenous people. Indigenous? What context?

Sami:

You know what context I'm talking about. Next topic, please.

Momo:

Okay. Sure, man. Let me think.

Sami:

Do you Open to interpretations.

Momo:

Okay. Yeah. This is a good one. I don't know if you how how you feel about this. Would you rather only be able to communicate by text for the rest of your life or only in person with zero phone or Internet?

Sami:

Depends. There's a last comfort there's a last question carry over. I'm only whispering. So if I'm only whispering, then what's the point of me

Momo:

talking to people? Your life would be pretty sad. The thing is, yeah, I like to play you know what, it's actually good. Let's play a narrative with all the woody writers and that's gonna be your life in it.

Sami:

I'm only whispering now.

Momo:

You're only whispering, and now we get to the next question.

Sami:

I'm only whispering. If I'm only whispering, yeah, I'd rather just be texting you. But also on top of that, yeah. I know, man, but that's so boring, man.

Momo:

You're never gonna be able to actually speak to a person in person. Well, speak to person

Sami:

in person. Yeah. Because speaking in person is so much more valuable. But at the same time, you're more likely to, like, because how often do you unless you live, like, close to your friends, how often do you actually see them? Really?

Sami:

That's what I mean. Not really, but, like

Momo:

Oh, I'm talking about the the average you Like, no.

Sami:

Us for, like, once a week, twice a week. Yeah. But that's So you so you'd have more interactive bases of them day to day if it's over text. Yeah. Whereas twice man.

Sami:

Unless we all lived in the same like vicinity locality then I'd say, no. But I just enjoy talking to you guys and

Momo:

making noises and hearing you guys make noises. Are you bugging out? Do need a minute? Can I go

Sami:

back to the question so I can I can only speak loudly? No. You're Look, your life, by the way. Okay. If I can only speak loudly Yeah.

Sami:

Then I would say meet in person. If I can only whisper, then I say let me text you.

Momo:

Did I did I ask that question?

Sami:

No. Okay.

Momo:

Would you rather that's your life now?

Sami:

Okay. I would rather only text you. But at the same time, that means your previous question doesn't matter now. It does. Because I can only whisper, I'm not even seeing you.

Sami:

Yep.

Momo:

Well, no, you would be seeing me. Why why wouldn't you be seeing oh, wait. You can't. Yeah. You can't communicate with Yeah.

Momo:

That's peak. Your life is sad.

Sami:

Chew chew chew, Oze.

Momo:

It's a long time. Until I can

Sami:

figure out how to say it in Japanese, though, man.

Momo:

Yeah. It's not Chinese. It's not Japanese.

Sami:

It can't be.

Momo:

Chu chu chu, is it?

Sami:

It's too Chinese. Oh. Chu.

Momo:

Bilingual. How many languages do you know? Three.

Sami:

What? Three languages? I don't. What? English, Bengali.

Sami:

But the thing is, yeah, Bengali, like, can't actually read or write though. So do you actually know the language?

Momo:

Yeah. I mean, speak it wherever you I can

Sami:

speak it.

Momo:

But but lingu oh. No. No. It's not it's not it's not all of the variants.

Sami:

How many languages can you speak, I guess?

Momo:

Me? Is the

Sami:

question I mean, like, rather than how many up do you know? Two. I can speak two, but even then, Bangladesh is so, like, segmented, like, I can speak sillyty, essentially. Yeah. But then if you go to the capital city, I cannot speak to them about

Momo:

How different is the language?

Sami:

It's it feels it feels like a different language, but as few words when they say that I can, like it's not even me understanding it. Me more like, oh, it sounds similar to how it would sound and silly. And then I'm like

Momo:

But Okay. Let's say you're you're

Sami:

You don't understand the ma'oul?

Momo:

No. A'oul. Is it does it feel like a different language?

Sami:

And I feel like they speak way faster as well.

Momo:

Really? That's actually interesting. It's the same as Somali and Somaliland, by the way.

Sami:

Oh, is it? Yeah. Because How different would you say, though?

Momo:

Not that much different. Yeah. Because mouth feels But there's certain words that I've heard in Somali like, there there there was a guy I knew. He who's from some side of Somalia and he's like, yeah, this is what I call, like, the kitchen. And I'm like, I have never heard that word in my life.

Momo:

I like the fact you've just made your own language and we live in

Sami:

the same country. Doesn't make sense. A different like

Momo:

It's not even a dialect.

Sami:

For example,

Momo:

it's just completely different way.

Sami:

For example, in Bengali, like, the people that they speak, they call it, means straight language. Yeah. Do is your is the Somali like, do they have like a name for it, of what that is?

Momo:

I'm honestly landers and Somalis, I'm not entirely sure the history behind that.

Sami:

Yeah.

Momo:

But a lot of people like this Somaliland people because I don't know.

Sami:

I But I feel like them calling it straight language seems bare like elitist Yeah. Located.

Momo:

You are. You you you're you're

Sami:

That's elitist.

Momo:

Like, you're thinking elititizing

Sami:

Like, you feel like you feel like you're the this is this main language, and

Momo:

you should aware day with tribes and all that stuff, most you certain

Sami:

But it is a capital city, so I guess they feel some type of,

Momo:

like Wait. You're you're

Sami:

Well, no. Duck Selet isn't a capital.

Momo:

I've seen your country.

Sami:

I'm talking about my city.

Momo:

It's very smart.

Sami:

I'm talking about

Momo:

Oh, your city. Wait. Okay. I'm getting it wrong. So Selet itself Is a city.

Momo:

Oh, I think. A city. Right? And is there different dialects in your city?

Sami:

Nah. You don't understand everyone.

Momo:

Okay. But then there's

Sami:

Chittagong, but then I feel like them people speak I don't know. It's a bit strange. That's actually But it's like but then again, like, even in this country, like, have you spoken to a scouser or, like, someone up north? They speak a bit different as well. But not that much different.

Sami:

But you still understand that.

Momo:

But you have some sense of slang. I'm telling you, like, I think maybe it's for you. They have completely different words for different things. Like, a kitchen completely means something

Sami:

to For example, for dinner in The UK, like, they call it some people call it tea. Mhmm. Or they call it they call it dinner tea, and there's other ones as well. And that I don't get because that's not tea. Like, how can tea be dinner time?

Momo:

But it's also, I think it's more cultural.

Sami:

Yeah. Is it more no. It's not I feel like it just depends on

Momo:

the part of the Tea time is like Tea time,

Sami:

isn't it? No. They say tea for dinner.

Momo:

What? Yeah. They call dinner tea. That's what

Sami:

that's what, like, certain UK parts of The UK call it tea.

Momo:

Yeah. No. I'm not I'm not about that, man. I don't even eat dinner at that time. The fact you have to eat dinner, like, five, six.

Momo:

Is it that's, like, dinner time.

Sami:

That's the the dinner time. Bro. What are you gonna do for

Momo:

the rest of the What time you sleeping? That's what I wanna know. Like, you're gonna just sleep. You're just sleeping. But I guess that's

Sami:

where the snacking comes in and what

Momo:

Yeah, man. It's all for you, man. But let me get to the next question. Oh, would you rather always be ten minutes late or always twenty minutes early? You're never allowed to use your phone while waiting.

Momo:

That's twenty minutes is that's fine. Twenty minutes of just waiting Yeah. Without using your phone?

Sami:

That's not even that bad. Sometimes I'll be early and I just pace around. Anyways. What's on like, what's in your head?

Momo:

Nothing. Can't just have nothing, bro. You can. You'd think of nothing. Literally nothing.

Momo:

That's the thing. I'm always thinking of something. That'll get tiring. Exhausting. Yeah.

Momo:

I I need the break, bro. It's awful, bro. Every single day, bro.

Sami:

I'm just You're trying to switch off?

Momo:

I can't. It's so hard, man.

Sami:

Nah. Surely.

Momo:

Yeah. No. I I can't switch off. Like, my brain is always racing. Racing?

Momo:

Yeah. With thoughts. Racing, though? Racing with thoughts. Yes.

Momo:

Damn. Like, even now, I'm thinking while talking. But how are speaking? It's a very complicated one.

Sami:

This goes back to the centipede, by way. I'm not getting to that because you're gonna d dreidel it again.

Momo:

No. No. Go ahead.

Sami:

No. No. No. It's fine.

Momo:

Okay. You know, speak to him. I think maybe he might understand. Do you think this can understand? Poor guy.

Momo:

Bro, he's getting he's getting slayed, bro. Thirty minutes early,

Sami:

what would that be bad? Like, in hindsight. And Yeah. Because ten minutes late, you get you start to be known as a late guy. And it depends what it is, though.

Sami:

Imagine it's a flight. You've missed it. Oh, yeah. If it's like your wedding, she's got she got married to the Ten minutes.

Momo:

Ten ten minutes. They can't wait ten minutes.

Sami:

Brother, she's getting married. Off. To the priest probably. Whoever officiates the wedding. Priest.

Sami:

Or the whoever officiates the wedding.

Momo:

She could she could've waited ten minutes. No. I wouldn't want her to. She could've waited.

Sami:

Why are you late, though?

Momo:

You shouldn't be late. That's my life now, man. Doesn't matter, though. I did a would you rather now, like, that's my life. Your your child, you're late, so No.

Momo:

No. But I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm all I'm very early to a lot of things When he's not around. Yeah? I came twenty minutes early, bro.

Sami:

That was because of wireless stuff.

Momo:

I in a car, but no.

Sami:

But to be fair, that that show is, like, you know, four set preplanning.

Momo:

Yeah. That's why I preplan. I'm usually, early. Yeah. But I like to know what you But back

Sami:

in the days, remember when we used to play basketball, it would be an hour early. What? One hour early. Are you doing? I don't know.

Sami:

I was just walking around. I don't know why it became but at one point Pacing, like, fault. I was just pacing. No

Momo:

What's what's going on? I don't understand how you had no fault. Like, how I

Sami:

don't see how you have thoughts. But, like, for example, in, like, philosophy, like, you know, eastern side of things, like, how they got empty mind, like

Momo:

What are you talking about?

Sami:

It's like a philosophical, like, mindset where you try to achieve motion. Not that I've achieved it.

Momo:

Oh, you know what's you well, you do a lot. That because you you do a lot of meditating. I do. And you have to empty your mind. I've tried before.

Momo:

Yeah. Could not.

Sami:

But the thing is that emptying your mind doesn't necessarily mean you shouldn't have any thoughts. You can have thoughts, just don't dwell on them.

Momo:

So let it flow.

Sami:

You've fixed it

Momo:

on the You told me this, bro. Yeah. I I've told you, like, how do I just meditate? You were like, just let the thought come.

Sami:

Yeah.

Momo:

Let it go.

Sami:

Yeah. Because you it's so easy to fix it and dwell on it and then Yeah. Start unpacking it. Just don't do that. The thing is that it's quite extreme and it's like the the very best at it Yeah.

Sami:

They they'll do it to a point where it's like because I I still think you should dwell on a fort. There's nothing like inherently wrong with dwelling on a fort because if you want to like yeah. That's how you can unpack certain things. But it's hard to draw the line of like, okay, shall I dwell on that or shall I not dwell on that?

Momo:

Do you think therapy is a scam?

Sami:

No. Only because I feel like you hear enough success stories about it. But I do think it's such an individualistic thing though. That's what you know because your therapist may not necessarily be the right one for you. In a sense, they might not be because end of the day, it comes down to an interpretation as well.

Sami:

They might be getting it wrong. They might be saying certain things to you that don't resound of you. And at that point, it's hard to say. Because the thing is the same it goes thing goes for, like, going to a hospital. You might get misdiagnosed.

Momo:

They kinda not catch that. Because they base they base things all on

Sami:

theory, ain't it? Essentially. Yeah.

Momo:

Pretty much is what like, you could be part of another study of, like, let's say, I don't know, something et al. I don't know what they're called. Those Psychologists. No psychologists, man. Like, when they do studies and they they they they have all them names.

Sami:

It's just a study. L just means and

Momo:

I was I was gonna say the citations on all of them and then anyway, those studies, they only base off certain, like, people and, like but everyone's so different. I feel like we're

Sami:

It depends though because but that's but that's why when you evaluate that study, you do say one of the limitation was the sample size is too small as to to this one region of people.

Momo:

To an extent, I feel like

Sami:

But to some it depends but also depends, though, what you're because some psychologists are right, though. I understand studies.

Momo:

I get that. But, like, there's also, like, a spiritual thing.

Sami:

There's also

Momo:

there's spirituality and then there's, like, other morals that they can't really, like they can't dissect the person's comes

Sami:

under the limitations of of that study. They do acknowledge that there are limitations.

Momo:

Yeah. But I did that but to me that's why sometimes I'm just like I

Sami:

wouldn't say it's a scam though. No.

Momo:

Not not a scam. But I feel like maybe some sometimes you just want to talk to a person. I think that's that's what it comes down to. Like I wouldn't say it's a complete scam because sometimes okay just having a person that understands the brain be pretty The

Sami:

only thing that I would say against therapy is that I feel like it's not accessible to the average person because it can be quite expensive

Momo:

Yeah, man. Or if you do you

Sami:

get the freer ones that your council may provide? You might be in a long waiting It's just at that point, like,

Momo:

no. I've seen people on it. It's just people just speaking to each other, man. Yeah. And just validating your feelings.

Momo:

And I think that's what we we go all the way back. That's all you need. Validation by just listening.

Sami:

Yeah. But the the average therapist, I feel like they just charge away too much.

Momo:

100%.

Sami:

But It's like what? Odd 60 an hour or something. Who's gonna I need to record that. Yeah. It's in that that rough range.

Sami:

That's actually quite

Momo:

have you looked into it? No.

Sami:

Oh. I'm mentally fine.

Momo:

I haven't looked into it, be honest. But there's there's there's a very there there's one that always comes with better help.

Sami:

Think that is accessible, that I think, Sallie. So I haven't looked into it, but from what I understand, it's meant to be, like, you don't have to go in person. It's all over on A lot more sensible nowadays.

Momo:

Yeah. I think that's that's that's better. But also, I feel like you you you tend to get off the that human element. But anyway

Sami:

Ah, Fez.

Momo:

This is actually good. I I actually thought of you with this question. You'd rather lose your sense of joy or your sense of ambition. It's a hard one, isn't it?

Sami:

Sense of ambition, you know?

Momo:

Yeah. Really?

Sami:

I feel like I don't have to think out of your back.

Momo:

A precious man.

Sami:

I am, but I enjoy life. I enjoy joy, though.

Momo:

Joy. Joy. Yeah. But what if the ambition gives you joy? Think about it.

Sami:

But

Momo:

then enjoy it anyways, though. But you might not

Sami:

Also, what's the point but what's the point of being ambitious if you can't enjoy that ambition?

Momo:

You wouldn't have any ambition. Like, you would literally just be living actually,

Sami:

yeah. That's fine. Yeah. Because imagine you

Momo:

But then But love ambitious people and you love having goals for yourself. No?

Sami:

I do. I do love ambitious people, but I also do love joyous people as well though. And it's not it's not about the

Momo:

You would no goals for yourself pretty much. Like like, you would only set, like you'd be a normie, technically.

Sami:

I'd be a normie, but it's not wrong with being a normie. Really? Yeah. Do you know like, for example, people hate the 95, but I actually don't quite mind it. I think we should normalize a 95.

Sami:

Like, because you do actually you can enjoy your life afterwards.

Momo:

You know what I just don't like? I think it's the culture behind a nine to five. And oh, to be honest, nine to fives are fine if you're in the right country. Because I feel like The UK The UK nine to five is brutal.

Sami:

Do you not enjoy your five to 12?

Momo:

But if I had to if I had, like, a traditional nine to five where I had to go in every single day

Sami:

Honestly, that's traditional anymore though. But back in the days, that

Momo:

was They're trying to bring it back, man.

Sami:

They're trying to bring it back. Yeah. 100%. Like think hybrid is the way to go.

Momo:

Yeah. 100100% hybrid is the

Sami:

But like You're nine to five is really and truly a seven or eight to six. That's what I'm saying.

Momo:

Yeah. And like a lot of the time, they overwork you and just push you to do more because you need to get quote or whatever you need to do. Mhmm. I feel like that's just not a way to live because at that at that point, you don't wanna do

Sami:

healthy though. Like, if you I don't know. If you have enough hobbies and you can manage yourself well as well, you can genuinely enjoy a 95. But obviously, it goes down to whether you're in a job that you enjoy firstly. Exactly.

Sami:

Which I think most people struggle with anyway.

Momo:

How much do you think because of, like, UK culture, how much do you think you need to get paid to be not doing, like okay.

Sami:

Right UK culture versus London culture. Do you

Momo:

think gonna know? How much how much do you think is is fairly pay to be dealing with all of that?

Sami:

I don't know. I don't I I wouldn't know.

Momo:

Because have have you gone okay. You he he he he has a job that's, like, closer to him, so he doesn't need to travel as much, but

Sami:

So it's a bit more am a more speaking from a privileged position. Yeah. But then again, a lot of jobs are work from home now anyways, And most our friends work from home.

Momo:

Yeah. But I think it's Well, I agree. We're lucky. I I think Yeah. But right now, a lot of Most of

Sami:

us work from home, though. I think it's hard to say, though.

Momo:

The industry.

Sami:

Yeah. You

Momo:

know? I think the the everyone is in the industry that can do it, but a lot of jobs are now going back to hybrid no. Not hybrid. The bring back office No. They're actually really trying to do it.

Sami:

They're

Momo:

pushing it hard. But okay. You have to wake up at six Yeah. Leave at seven, get there by 08:30, let's say. Like, had to travel and like, a lot of people I knew people that would travel, like, an hour and a half every single day to get into the That's crazy.

Sami:

Yeah. Like, that's that I get why you'd be so fed up doing that. I understand that. And that's what

Momo:

I'm saying. How much would you say it's worth it to get paid for doing that?

Sami:

Honestly, if you're making me commute like that Yeah. I'd say you have to at least be giving a 50 k.

Momo:

I wouldn't. There's no amount of money I would do.

Sami:

Is it? Yeah. I mean, I know you've specifically whenever whenever you for a job, you're like, no. It has

Momo:

to be. There's no amount of money that will make me happy. Like, you could give me a 100 k a 100 200 k.

Sami:

Come on. Let's be real. There's a there's a price for everything. There's a price I actually wouldn't. 200 k.

Sami:

And because they made you commit, you wouldn't take

Momo:

An hour and a half every day? Yeah. Can't be honest, man. 200 k.

Sami:

You know

Momo:

my money is actually, like, worth it for me. Like, I genuinely hate it so much.

Sami:

You know what? It's because the 200 k hasn't landed in your account.

Momo:

If I you're right. If I saw a money land in my account, I don't know how much that is monthly. Oh, wait. Tax would destroy me. That's a 50% off.

Momo:

Okay. But still a 100 k landing in your account. How much would that be monthly? A lot. Less than it'd be, like, 9 something.

Momo:

A monthly? Yeah.

Sami:

That's a lot.

Momo:

9 something monthly. I could do a lot of that.

Sami:

Exactly. You're thinking right now. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe I lines and maybe, know, okay.

Sami:

Maybe I will get right.

Momo:

I don't have the money right now. That's what that's that's I'm saying, man.

Sami:

But more so it's an hour commute. Even that's the

Momo:

Bro, I'm I'm bro, like, there's

Sami:

Back in uni days, hate that. That's thing I hate the most about uni.

Momo:

It's so bad when when you had the 9AM. Yeah.

Sami:

I just wake up at least, like, what? Especially, you for you, it's an hour and a half as old, though.

Momo:

Hey. What? What? Hour twenty?

Sami:

Yeah. There you

Momo:

go. I went to Greenwich for a little bit till I didn't go there anymore.

Sami:

Hour 20 is crazy. That's what I'm like. I understand it.

Momo:

No. People would like, I've I've heard so many people when when they live out of London,

Sami:

community Especially that rush hour vibe as

Momo:

well. Like, it's genuinely depressing. That's what I'm saying. And, like, I don't think there's amount of money for my health, like like my mental health. Like, there's no amount of money that will make me hap like, okay.

Momo:

I have 9 k. I can now afford therapist because I'm going

Sami:

a said therapist

Momo:

scam. No. I never said that. I asked you, is it a scam?

Sami:

I'm trying to put things in your mouth now. Oh. Won't be the only thing I put

Momo:

in Pause. Your Oh, never mind. You you ran with it. That's actually crazy. We talk about this later.

Momo:

On the Patreon. On the Patreon.

Sami:

I'm gonna put things in his mouth.

Momo:

I actually do wanna make a Patreon because

Sami:

because

Momo:

You know why?

Sami:

S and G, they started from episode one. Right?

Momo:

They did, but I don't think they put if you guys want, like, behind the scenes content or, like, us, like, just doing wacky stuff, that'll probably we could actually make

Sami:

What the

Momo:

Okay. If if I literally just have a camera on you for, like, a day

Sami:

Why are treating me like some circus animal?

Momo:

If I have a camera on you for a day, you'll realize this man isn't isn't like like, he's he just does the most random stuff. Like, he's saying right because now he's chill. Enchalant. Gimmick.

Sami:

For reforming

Momo:

This is not actually an Sorry. I wanna be in a TikTok editor so badly, man.

Sami:

You bro, bro, you you have TikTok on this of yourself.

Momo:

No. No. I wanna be I want, like, us just saying like this. TikTok, edit.

Sami:

Bro, bro, why would

Momo:

this be TikTok, edit? It'd be us, like, our faces and stuff. It'd be lit. Be be like Korean pop idols. That's Japanese.

Momo:

Korean pop idols. Pop idols? K pop idols. Yeah. The Hon Moon is golden, by the way.

Sami:

You'll get that reference. Can you can you sing a lyric from

Momo:

that song? No. I won't. I've I've a rant.

Sami:

Please. You know what? You know what? Lyric. No?

Momo:

No, I don't actually, you know. So the Hon Moon is not golden, bro. I I wouldn't think

Sami:

Also, initially speaking, the Hon Moon wasn't golden anyways. What was it? Like blue? No. Because your idol was number one first.

Momo:

Oh, yeah. Now yeah. Yeah. We would've We

Sami:

lost already. Bro. Now, this is just like salvaging what was left of humanity.

Momo:

But that's what happened in the in the movie as well.

Sami:

That's true as well.

Momo:

Because he watched k pop demon hunter

Sami:

and Blanking. How much money need to borrow?

Momo:

What what? Why?

Sami:

My little brother. Because it just banged. I'd rate it. The thing is, yeah, I would actually give it I have a lot of problems with the movie as well, though. Really?

Momo:

Yeah. A lot. You know, like It's me being picky, though. We have, like

Sami:

I just got me being picky.

Momo:

We have, like, five minutes. So All my all my problems. Name three. Name three. Just three.

Sami:

I have more than that. But just name three. A, firstly, yeah, it was meant to be a three hour long movie, but then Netflix was like to them, our audience is gonna be kids. They don't have the attention span. Yeah.

Sami:

Make it shorter. It wasn't kids.

Momo:

That's not a kids movie. Right. It's not kids movie.

Sami:

Technically not. It was

Momo:

abs being shown. Like, is there

Sami:

a kid Do you know?

Momo:

That's what I'm saying, bro. They were teenagers. Why why wouldn't they

Sami:

be necessarily for kids, but they said it's too long. Make it short. That's what Netflix said. I

Momo:

mean, yeah. But that's that's even Free.

Sami:

I know, man. Free. Oh, I should've been so good of that. Also, there's meant to be an aquarium date scene. They cut it out

Momo:

of Rumi and Jin Yu. You know what it is? I didn't ship them. I actually didn't.

Sami:

Why?

Momo:

I don't know, man.

Sami:

Is it because he's 400 years old? Like, how

Momo:

are you I'm he did. No. Okay. Okay. You know why I didn't ship them?

Momo:

Why? I feel like I didn't trust him.

Sami:

Also, I think his backstory is a lie, you know. I think he did act I think he got manipulated.

Momo:

Into what was he doing? Because you know

Sami:

how was initially that he tried he brought his parents, his family into the castle Yeah. But then you find out he actually didn't bring them at all. Oh. It was just

Momo:

him on his ones. He just went by himself Yeah. And just let his Yep. Parents be poor.

Sami:

Yep. I think that's a lie though. I think Grima, the devil

Momo:

Oh, he changed his mind and stuff like that. He did his things.

Sami:

Then now

Momo:

he's You know who's the voice act of the demon?

Sami:

The front man from Skidget.

Momo:

The front man from Skidget. He's also good. You know,

Sami:

been in one of you know that Op and Gangnam style guy?

Momo:

Yeah.

Sami:

Si. Yeah. He's been in one of his music videos as well.

Momo:

That man.

Sami:

Actually cold. Like, oh, he's got aura, man. Haven't. I'm struggling. I'm on a I do enjoy it though.

Sami:

Think

Momo:

so This season part two?

Sami:

I'm on still part one though, man.

Momo:

Part two messes you up. It's too much crap.

Sami:

But is part one better, though? No. It's just because I had season three the I don't know the last season.

Momo:

Right? The season. Yeah. Somewhere yeah. The season is part one, part two.

Sami:

Okay. The thing is I've I've been spoiled because of TikTok comments. Oh. But I don't wanna get into it though because I'm trying to gaslight myself that didn't happen. Yeah.

Sami:

As as and What's about season two? Part one or part two, what's about what would you say?

Momo:

I'll say part I haven't finished part two, so I

Sami:

can't say. Because a lot of people while I've seen

Momo:

the night You know, I'd say part one was good. I think part two is just too much stuff happening with that one. Yeah. What are they

Sami:

trying to, like, jam packed things, would you say?

Momo:

No. I'm just thinking this is brutal.

Sami:

Because I've seen a lot

Momo:

of people. It's more brutal than the first season.

Sami:

Is it? Yeah. Yeah. It's I saw a lot of people say, maybe because of the ending, which I haven't seen yet.

Momo:

Yeah. Apparently, people don't like

Sami:

the ending. Don't like the ending. Yeah. But I think, generally speaking, it's so hard to end things, man. Yeah.

Sami:

It is. As an author, I must be struggling, man.

Momo:

It is the final season. It's never gonna happen in it again. It's just

Sami:

Ping is what? From the spoilers that I know.

Momo:

I'm just gonna be an American one.

Sami:

So American version.

Momo:

Yeah. Makes sense from from what? From who I am, it makes sense.

Sami:

Okay. But I'm assuming it's just because it's more of a spin off, but apparently, I don't know.

Momo:

No. No. It's I can't spoil it for you.

Sami:

I know. But it's I do I am enjoying it.

Momo:

Because of the higher ups pretty much.

Sami:

The VIPs? Yeah. Them, man. Okay.

Momo:

Okay. You will you will you will see them be like, okay. This makes sense now.

Sami:

What's wrong with their voices, by the way? Why why they sound like that?

Momo:

I was thinking the exact same thing. The way, they I think they dub it.

Sami:

But one of them I think one of

Momo:

them addressed it though recently. They dub it. It's weird. It's like they will they will speak English, but dub it in English.

Sami:

You know

Momo:

what reminds

Sami:

me of who you know An who's speaking anime Yeah. When they have, like, a character speak English. Yeah. It It reminds me of that. It gives it a great vibe.

Momo:

Both. They are they're actual English speakers.

Sami:

That's the thing. They're

Momo:

they're American. No. They're English speakers. They're speaking English, but then they dub over it.

Sami:

Oh, what? I still I still don't get how it sound like that. It sounds so weird.

Momo:

Just Koreans.

Sami:

I don't I don't think they are Koreans though, the VIPs.

Momo:

Oh, no. They're not.

Sami:

No. They're That's what I'm saying.

Momo:

Why don't They're actual English speakers, but they duck over it for some reason. I don't really understand what what they're doing. They sound so weird. There's like one actual English speaker. The rest of them are just speaking

Sami:

Well, he sounds normal, you mean? Like,

Momo:

yeah. Yeah. And he looks proper American. But anyhow, that is oh, we're almost done. Okay.

Momo:

Okay. You wanna outro it?

Sami:

You're not on 10,000 steps, but that's fine because I don't have to tell you to get to 10,000 steps. I know you can do it. You know what? Have some hope, Cole. Believe if you don't believe in yourself, believe in the me that believes in you.

Momo:

What, guys?

Sami:

On that notice, on that note Yeah. I want you to hit that 10,000 steps right now.

Momo:

Appreciate it.

Sami:

After this podcast, walk a further half an hour. I promise you you got it. Chew, chew, chill, is there? Lock in twin. Back to my back to my favorite host star, your host's host.

Sami:

You meant to say something. Aren't you are you aren't you gonna aren't you gonna aren't you you gonna continue?