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From the gym to the screen, yeah,
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It's lunch time.
What is going on, everybody?
i got a comment on our youtube video
the other day from helson abernas mr
helson he said he was listening to our
show with earbuds in at the grocery store
and when the theme song came on he
found himself dancing down the aisle
throwing stuff in the basket just come on
grab some pasta put it in a basket
yeah hundred percent i don't know why you
wouldn't i love that our theme song is
that catchy
i want to know does he did he
think like he find that odd like he
that wasn't going to happen was it the
first time he had ever heard it because
like i well you and i and vicky
all are all just sitting here just bobbing
and weaving while it's going on waiting
for it to finish up so i mean
that's a thing yeah yeah but hey taking
it dancing at the grocery store is like
a step yeah step up yeah definitely
Judy Reed and Vicki and I keep doing
that again.
I'm not used to having help, guys.
I'm not used to having help.
Judy Reed, like that color on your shirt,
Corey.
Remember, everyone deployed.
It has absolutely nothing to do with Ohio.
Yeah.
I was just going to say it's a
nice salmon color.
It's technically red.
It's just really terrible lighting in here
in my closet.
Heel, yeah.
Yeah, heel, yeah.
You know what color shirt's really cool?
This color.
Look at that.
Yep,
shipped out I think twelve shirts last
night.
That's a mighty big stack of bags you
had on that post.
If you had ordered your shirts prior to
Seven p.m.
Eastern time last night.
Your shirts are in the mail.
They're already there.
They're gone.
Off.
Whoosh.
We're talking about a U.S.
Postal Service.
Probably not whoosh.
It's probably more like a whoosh.
It's probably more like, yeah, come on,
boy.
Pony Express.
Mm-hmm.
Vicki so kindly put up the picture of
the shirt and the Venmo and the cash
app QR codes thirty two dollars with
shipping that includes shipping and
handling and that is if you're in the
United States to all fifty states we've
already hit ten states ten out of fifty
and look Meg says she just ordered last
night
That means I've got the District of
Columbia,
so that'll be eleven out of fifty-one.
Need to go into New York?
Not yet.
I need to go bug Garrett and Colleen.
Yeah, put name, size,
and address in the memo, please.
Thank you.
Mike DeVito,
who I think is getting a shirt right
now.
Hey, well, not right now.
It's in the whoosh mail.
Probably not right this second.
Soon.
Hey,
my mom's parents retired from the USPS,
and yes,
they will confirm the dumpster fire.
There you go.
Bananas crazy.
That's an interesting comment,
Mark Phillips.
Do we think Ms.
Voigt-Miller listened to the show?
So she is a subscriber to this channel.
She has commented in the chat and she
has commented on videos.
So there is a chance that Becca
Voigt-Miller listens to the show.
And I do like the fact that she
put out that post yesterday.
That's amazing.
Good on her.
If she's listening right now, kudos.
Awesome.
Thank you.
Thank you, thank you, thank you,
thank you.
And if you don't know what I'm talking
about,
she put out a post yesterday on Instagram
saying,
if you're a Masters athlete and you have
concerns or feedback as to how the Masters
CrossFit Games went,
please send them to her so she can
address it on the CAC.
I am super curious as to how many
she got inundated with.
Like how, how many, like, you know,
she opened up her email this morning and
there was eighty seven messages in there
because it wouldn't be hard to do.
I think you're underestimating the number
of messages she's getting.
Oh, I sent several people.
I don't think she knows what she opened
herself up to.
I don't think she understands a can of
worms that she just uncovered.
No, not at all.
Not at all.
Maybe she does know.
Maybe she does know and is like, okay,
let me gather all these things in one
place so I can bring them to the
next CAC meeting and be like, hey, look,
here's a hundred emails from a hundred
different Masters Games athletes.
And they're all saying three things,
whatever.
It's pretty strong evidence at that point,
right?
Um,
can I just say Becca Voigt Miller is
one of my favorite people in the world.
I say that a lot, but yeah,
she was my,
she was one of my analysts when I
was with the morning chalk up.
Yeah.
Um,
she used to do the bottom line with
me and, uh,
because she was at the time,
even though she made semifinals and she
competed at semifinals,
she was truly a master's athlete at that
point.
Yeah.
And so she was giving analysis on the
workouts and all of that stuff.
She was awesome.
She's fit, dude.
And she's cooling the flip side of the
pillow.
Okay, probably dumb,
but I still think when people say the
CAC, it's still funny.
Like,
what was the focus group like when they
settled on that?
I don't think they had a focus group.
I think they were just like,
what are we going to call this?
I said, well, it's an athlete council.
Okay.
So this is a CrossFit athlete council.
Yeah.
So the CAC.
Yeah.
Cool.
And they probably never took it into their
brain that people were just going to start
calling it the CAC.
Right.
That was probably not ever an option that
somebody just like, oh,
maybe they just called it the CAC.
Nope.
But we like acronyms.
Yeah.
I work for government.
So everything gets turned into an acronym.
Yeah.
then everybody pronounces it so yeah
anyway it is what it is it's never
not going to be funny true uh corey
i still do not know how you finished
at monster games did you beat gleich
nobody beat john um cows and crossfit said
uh he meant he would that corey was
only counting the dms from jamie those
were the first that's a fact
Oh, again, like I said yesterday,
all she said was what everybody in the
Masters at age group has been thinking for
quite some time.
She just happened to get it all out
in public.
Good.
And all out in like, fifteen minutes.
All the stuff came out all at once.
Good, dude.
It needs to be said,
and it needs to be said on a
public forum.
It can't just keep being said between the
Masters athletes themselves who just talk
about it and are,
I don't want to say scared,
but otherwise may not necessarily have a
voice or a platform to be able to
get it out there so that maybe something
can actually be done about it or at
least have it be recognized.
Hey,
we understand that this was what it is,
and we are actively working to change it.
Again,
not that I'm expecting anybody to say that
this is,
we understand what was going on and,
and we're actively rooting to change it.
But if it got, if,
if that or us talking about it or
whatnot is what got Rebecca, excuse me,
Becca to make that post yesterday,
inviting people to email her and whatnot
so that it could be brought up then,
Hey, job done.
Did I mention to you that Lito and
I used to be friends?
Can I express to you, like,
I love you guys in the chat.
I truly do.
But can I express to you how much
I really don't care why Gabby withdrew?
To me, like,
and here it is back to, like,
it's sport, right?
Yeah.
Someone withdraws, I've already moved on.
Oh, that sucks.
Okay.
I'll spend a couple minutes thinking,
okay.
I wonder why, blah, blah, blah.
And then I've moved on to Eileen worse,
who was a backfill and finished like.
Fifteen to eighteen somewhere in there.
I don't know the exact number.
Yeah.
Mid pack for sure.
That's a cooler story to me than why
she withdrew.
Absolutely.
And that's sports.
And now we have a producer.
yeah now he just that's perfect good lord
she's on top of her stuff i love
it um she also she also uh threw
together some images of colton flying
yesterday she sent a couple over and those
are fantastic they were fan freaking
tastic i said it i sent it to
david johnston he was like oh my god
that's amazing i was like yeah agreed
there he is uh the flying hog colton
mertens
If you guys don't know,
being five foot something and a hundred
and ninety,
hundred ninety five pounds and being able
to lay out like that and make that
dive is not an easy thing to do,
especially at the end of a workout.
I'm just in case you guys were wondering.
Well,
if you're a male and you lay out
like that, you know,
they're going to be repercussions.
Hundred percent.
That isn't going to happen.
And so you have to give up.
You have to give yourself up knowing that.
Yeah.
Things are going to hurt after that dive.
It's probably not going to be great when
you wake up.
Well, when you stand up, rather get up,
but it's the kind of sacrifices you make.
I remember Tim Paulson in the height of
his career dove across the finish line,
I think, ninety percent of the time.
I don't think I've ever seen.
Yeah.
I don't think I've ever seen Tim just
like get across the finish line.
Now that you say that.
Yeah.
Because he was one of – first of
all, you couldn't miss him, right?
Bright red hair.
Not quite as bright as Lito's,
but dude's definitely a ginger.
I just – first of all,
the first thing that always comes to mind
is Tim Paul's send because him sending it
on that echo bike workout that one time
when he just got on it and just
tried to break it.
Yeah.
uh but yeah i think about it it's
dive it's you know feet first jump slide
whatever i don't think he's ever just like
hopped up onto the platform and called it
good um peter benoit so does the test
to get into the crossfit games actually
get the top fittest athletes if a backfill
gets eighteenth
I don't think it's an indictment on the
test, Peter.
I think it's an indictment on the method
in which we do it.
I think anytime that you do online...
There's ways to gain.
So there is a difference between someone
who can do a workout three times,
figure it out,
and get a really good score by the
end of the weekend,
and someone who is given the workout and
must accomplish it right then and there in
the moment at the time.
You cannot test that pressure piece of it
online.
No.
Some people can handle the bright lights.
Some people can't.
Some people perform better under the
bright lights and some people just don't.
So that's why everybody loved regionals
because part of the test of regionals was
you have to finish top five or you're
done or you're done.
And that tested that, that pressure piece.
So we got the best people who could
handle that at the games.
Of course,
there could be multiple reasons why that
person was only a backfill.
Online brings cheaters.
There are so many factors.
But I do think that when you're getting
down to that,
the online last chance qualifier,
online semifinal,
whatever you want to call it at that
point,
there weren't a lot of people doing that.
The video review was much more intense for
that.
But I do believe that it does not
test the pressure cooker that is.
Lito makes a great point too.
It's also not a single test as there
are multiple ways to get through.
Yeah.
And look,
the people who are on that bubble, right,
like her, it's not like they're not fit.
So, okay, she gets a backfill invite.
Cool.
Now, all of a sudden, she's mid-pack.
Well,
if she had done a little bit better
on the day,
she wouldn't have had to worry about a
backfill invite,
and she probably still would have finished
mid-pack.
Well, and I think in those semifinals,
it was one or two points difference
between – Yeah,
she was knocking on the door.
Yeah.
We're not talking about huge advantages of
the people who got in and she didn't.
Or the guy that nobody knew who he
was.
I keep wanting to say Gonzalez.
Or Gomez.
I don't remember.
That's how much, right?
Manuel Reyes?
Reyes.
That's him.
Close to Gonzalez.
Almost there.
It's Spanish.
I'm sort of Latin origin.
Nobody knew who that guy was?
And apparently they still don't.
And they still don't.
I still couldn't tell you his name,
obviously.
But, I mean,
they were asking other athletes about him,
and they were like, he legitimately said,
I have no idea who that is.
And apparently he competed in the team
games too,
and they still couldn't remember that.
No.
Unbelievable.
Joseph Ramirez wants to point out that not
all Latins are the same.
You are definitely a special one, Mr.
Joseph.
David Reed had a comment.
Vicky, you had up for a second.
I look at the open as a baseline.
There's a certain level you need to make
semis.
Semis has a baseline to get to the
games.
If you meet that baseline,
you're fit enough to handle the games
test.
I think from a fitness perspective,
all of that is true, David.
yeah but i think from a spotlight in
front of a large crowd thing isn't tested
in any of those yeah and that can
make or break an athlete at the highest
level and you know what that is that's
sport that's sports um
before we dive into the last little thing
and i do have a one o'clock meeting
today so this isn't going to be a
super long show um we talked about the
cac and how the twelve-year-old humor in
us all thinks that that's still funny do
you know what's still funny and i forgot
it was funny is king of the hill
oh god yeah so those kids could read
they all be highly upset my wife and
i watched the last two episodes of last
season because the new season just
kicked off i don't think i've laughed out
loud at a show that much so it's
all mike joe dude that dude is he's
a hell of a writer he really really
is there there's a scene in the next
to last episode of the last season where
i rewound it three times just so i
could laugh again just because like i
didn't get enough of that hold on let
me get up let me get a little
bit more of that
And all it is, all it is,
is Peggy is playing pickleball.
And the Asian woman has told her that
she's great at pickleball because of her
wide hips.
And she has taken exception to that.
So now she's playing with ferocity.
Right?
Yeah.
And she goes to plant and her knee
pops.
And all of a sudden,
all you hear her say is,
son of a bitch.
And she falls to the court.
And I could not stop howling.
Because every time something like that
happens to my wife,
that's exactly what she does.
She goes, son of a bitch.
And I kept rewinding it going, that's you.
That's you.
Does that sound familiar at all?
I know it should.
That is fantastic, dude.
That is absolutely fantastic.
That's one of my favorite shows.
Bobby, autocorrect can duck off.
He's beyond his name.
That boy ain't right.
That boy ain't right.
That's a fantastic show.
I cannot say enough about it.
If you didn't know,
they brought it back like a year ago.
And now Bobby is a hibachi chef at
a half Japanese, half Texas barbecue.
That in and of it's a,
you can stop right there.
I guess that's, that's enough.
That's not, um,
i need to find because i they they
took it away but um mike judge also
did the tales from the tour bus i
think you and i've had this conversation
before um where he goes they tell stories
about uh the first season was all country
country singers so like george jones and
whatnot it's all animated looks just like
king of the hill right but it's people
telling actual stories of stuff that
happened and then they animated
oh my word it's fantastic dude like um
because it's all real stories and it
starts off with mike judge who's animated
by the way he animated himself talking to
the camera
And it explains like what's fixing to
happen and whatnot.
And Johnny Paycheck, George Jones,
some other like songwriter types and
whatnot.
And it is absolutely hilarious.
And the second season was strictly focused
on George Clinton.
And and like the whole like, dude, oh,
my God, it's so good.
So that dude is fantastic.
He George Clinton.
Yeah.
George Clinton lives in Tallahassee,
Florida.
I lived in Tallahassee for four years.
I ran into George Clinton picking out a
sweater at a Sam's Club.
And if you don't know who George Clinton
is,
his hair is eighty-seven different colors.
And he's the leader of the P-Funk
All-Stars.
P-Funk All-Stars, baby.
And to see him over there holding up
a sweater with the dreads of multicolored
rainbow.
Oh, my gosh, dude.
I'd have lost it right then and there.
I'd have been like, nope, that's enough.
That's enough.
I don't need any more.
And my wife's like,
you going to go say something to him?
No.
First of all, he's a large man.
Yeah, he is a big dude.
He's a large man.
Like, no, I'm not going to go.
What do you want me to go say?
Hey, good choice.
I like the brown one better.
Yeah.
The brown one goes better with your skin
tone and the three different colors you
have in your hair.
No, dude, you're not doing that.
Anyway, Mike Judge is brilliant.
Of course, we've gone off the rails again.
Yeah.
From Beavis and Butthead through King of
the Hill.
I don't know if I'm,
I don't think I ever missed a Beavis
and Butthead when I was in college.
I've seen most of them.
And then Daria, Daria, Daria.
Daria.
Daria.
Yeah.
Anyway, so we,
yesterday the homework assignment was that
we have,
we have a guy who just won his
second CrossFit Games.
What is his legacy?
Our executive producer, Dr. Vicki,
sent me an essay that she wrote on
what is legacy.
And her point to the whole thing was,
it's not really what you do on the
floor that creates a true legacy.
It's more like...
all the intangibles and the things that
come from that that you do off the
floor.
And our example is like Rich didn't only
win four titles.
Rich elevated everything.
He owns an affiliate.
He owns a programming company.
He owns a training camp.
He went on to the teams and elevated
teams for six years.
All of that stuff.
Right.
And so I,
I totally understand where she's coming
from and I don't disagree with it,
but I think it all starts with,
you have to be great on the floor
first.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
I wouldn't even necessarily say you have
to be great.
You have to be good enough to be
recognized.
have to be good enough for people to
remember who you are to where it gives
you the capability and the ability and
well-liked that probably is also a thing
on there to be able to do all
those other things because otherwise
you're just some dude who competed at the
games yeah so like joseph is saying it's
too soon for justin and james legacy talk
I don't think it's too soon for Justin.
And I think Justin is doing things now
that he didn't do a couple of years
ago that are going to change what we
look at as his legacy,
that van trip to go from affiliate to
affiliate to affiliate and do the drop-ins
with his buddies and handing out gear and
prizes to people up and down the coast
of California.
Like those are the things that are going
to change Justin's legacy.
Or let's say add to it.
Add to it.
Sure.
Because no matter what,
so the guys that only won once,
like the Ben Smiths and the, you know,
Jasons and whoever else,
you still have a legacy because just by
virtue of winning,
you're going to have some sort of legacy.
How you want to be remembered is what
we're getting into with all the extra
stuff that you do outside of it to
where people have their perception of you.
There's that saying that, you know,
people aren't going to remember the
accolades.
They're going to remember how you made
them feel.
Right.
Clayton,
while Matt did most of those things and
his legacy is significantly less than
Rich's, it isn't a standard formula.
I agree with you.
Yeah.
I agree.
But Matt,
I think that Matt going on Rogan hurt
his legacy more than helped it.
the three hour and whatever that was
minute podcast did more to damage his
reputation and his legacy than in anything
he has done.
It's just starting to come back now.
Well, five years ago.
Yeah.
And the fact that he,
I think the fact that he participated as
much as he did in the games this
year is a step to rehab that legacy.
A hundred percent.
One percent.
Just the fact that he showed up,
he came out there.
He was he again,
like we talked about earlier,
he visibly seemed to be enjoying himself
on the floor with the microphone,
giving out the workout,
all of the things like that goes a
long way.
whether people want to admit it or not,
just the fact that he looked like he
was enjoying himself when people still,
even though that was forever ago,
still had that picture in their mind of
him sitting there talking to Rogan and
telling him all the crazy stuff that he
said, right,
or stuff that we would think would feel
like it's crazy.
Now all of a sudden you're on the
floor and you look like you're enjoying
yourself.
Oh, okay, you actually want to be here.
That goes a long way.
because he really distanced himself from
crossfit oh hundred percent um
intentionally or not that's what ended up
happening doesn't pat have a legacy in the
space he does i everybody has a legacy
it's just how big that or how great
it's a it is perceived to be yeah
right the fact of the matter is
both brent and pat have a legacy i
think their legacy is tied together
because for some reason because they're
both canadian people think they're family
and so because they're both and they both
had a rookie year the same year and
they like that whole was that when i
you know they just showed up on the
scene all of a sudden together even though
pat had been on a team like two
years before that that's why they're
they're they're lumped together
And they both love them or hate them.
Them,
the actions they took after the Lazar
death did something to their legacy.
And whichever side of the fence you were
on, it either, in your eyes,
made it better or made it worse.
Yep.
mike devito honestly and i love matt for
his accomplishment but i think his
appearance was strategy to ensure his
business growth like now all of a sudden
you care i think mike you're being a
little bit too harsh when i became a
dad my perspective on everything changed
hugely and matt just gave well he didn't
give birth but his
I hope he did.
That would have been awesome.
His wife has given birth and he has
become a father.
He's the goat,
so much so that he's given birth.
And when that happens,
your perspective on the world changes and
your perspective on life changes.
I've interviewed Matt on this show.
I have talked to Matt in person several
times.
Never once did he come off as the
guy on Rogan.
Right.
Never once in real life did he do
that.
And so we have all these perceptions and
how we perceive people to be,
and that's not always reality.
So I think that Matt will forever have
a legacy.
Will it ever be Rich's legacy?
No.
No.
They're not the same people, though.
Matt has never, one way or another,
spoken publicly about his faith.
There's no, you know,
there's not that component of it.
Matt doesn't have HWPO hunt and, you know,
the things that they do for all the
stuff that Rich does, dropping into,
you know, if he's somewhere,
he's going to drop into a Mayhem
affiliate.
You know, Rich,
he's just a different type of person.
if you know anything if you guys have
met matt fraser is an engineer brain works
fundamentally fundamentally different than
most everybody else on the planet rich is
a and god forgive me for just saying
this but rich grew up being a jock
an athlete his brain also works
fundamentally different than most people
on the planet
They look at problems differently.
They solve problems differently.
It's not going to be the same people.
It's just not, right?
I mean,
there's not necessarily anything wrong or
right about one versus the other.
It's just a different approach.
And I think, like you said,
I think Matt has,
they got two kids now, right?
Yep.
Yeah.
A hundred percent softened,
especially now that we got two.
And like, you become a dad, dude,
especially with two.
That's all that matters.
sure them kids are okay they got food
they're loved roof over their head whatnot
um so i think that's why you saw
a little bit of a a shift you
know like ramirez was saying when they
talked about the games this year like he
seemed way more relaxed than he was last
year yeah i um
talked to him a bunch at the syndicate
crown a couple years ago he was there
it was when hopper was still with him
and he was there coaching and he was
a he was a joy to talk to
honestly um because he wasn't competing it
wasn't like first of all i think hwpo
was a a creation that matt o'keefe came
up with to capitalize on the success of
matt's career
I don't think Matt ever felt that he
was going to be a coach.
He'll tell you he never was.
He never wanted to be a coach.
Right.
And so I think,
and the other part of this is finding
where he fits,
like hiring Justin Kotler to take over the
coaching lead of HWPO and him being able
to say, hands off.
I'll come in.
I'll talk to the athletes.
I'll do whatever I need to do was
the best thing Matt could have ever done.
Yeah,
probably the most shrewd business decision
since H H W has been a thing.
Let me get one of the best coaches
in the,
in the space and put him under my
wing,
especially saying where Justin was like,
he just wants to coach.
He didn't want to run the under all
the underdog stuff and do all the managing
shit.
Why he's told you that right here on
this show.
Yep.
Match made in heaven.
Um,
Mike says, if he wants HWPO to survive,
HWPO needs to be a huge part of
the community.
I bet you if you polled every CrossFitter
in the world,
you would be shocked the high percentage
of people that do HWPO programming.
I wouldn't be.
It's a lot.
I know it's a lot.
I know several athletes,
friends of mine that follow it and have
for quite some time.
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sean you are speaking the truth the
demands that vicky has made on us it's
terrible it's terrible the paid vacation
like one day into her job was probably
highest on the list so far yep um
why do you think we're selling t-shirts
that's number one reason as soon as that
happens scott's like i gotta get these
t-shirts dude
Merch just to afford Vicky.
Our corporate meetings are really, really,
they're intense.
It's crazy.
Yeah.
I think that's a good way to stop
for the week.
Going into the weekend,
I've got this one o'clock meeting.
But I do want to pull up Shanna's
thing because this is my experience with
Matt and I want her to share this.
shanna's comment vicky it's it's right
there yep yeah well we can dock her
ten dollars for that um matt talked to
me for fifteen minutes at the venue
fifteen i thought that was insane and he
did all the talking yeah yeah he like
in person he's great i interviewed his mom
that was one of my favorite interviews of
all time
Hearing the stories of young Matt and the
rebel kid that he was and that he
never listened to the rules or the...
I have no problem believing any of that,
by the way.
None whatsoever.
I can believe that he was a little
badass growing up.
The story she tells about them going
skiing...
And all of a sudden,
they heard those rumors of this kid
flipping off of a ski jump,
doing multiple flips and twists and all
this stuff.
And she looked at her husband and goes,
I know it's Matthew.
Like, yeah, that's going to be mine.
Let's go find him before he gets us
all kicked out of here.
Yeah.
they went over and he won like some
big prize for best ski jump or whatever
and he'd never done it before um so
yeah with that hope you guys have a
great rest of your day i'm not gonna
do anything to mess up vicky today hans
hands jack
With that,
I hope you guys have a great rest
of your day and weekend.
We'll be back for Sunday Night CrossFit
Talk.
You never know when Jamie's going to go
off on another rant.
Could be right now.
But until then...
You wouldn't wait to get to the editing
room to jazz me up.
I'm already jazzy.
Lunch with the Clydesdale Cowboy in the
saddle.
Lunch with the Clydesdale Cowboy in the
saddle.
Talking to reps,
real life strength in the battle.
From the gym to the screen, yeah,
we cover it all.
Midday motivation every time we press
call.
Lunch with the Clydesdale Cowboy in the
heat.
CrossFit, movies, music on repeat.
Half hour hustle, yeah,
we building that brand.
Grab a plate, shoot it,
now you're part of the fam.