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Everyday we take a break from the busy work day to catch our breath, hang out with friends and talk about the world of Sports, Entertainment and specifically CrossFit. Today we talk about Mat Fraser competing again, No Rep TV, Hiller, Aimee Cringle vs Tia Toomey, Roman heads to Madison and so much more.

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What is Clydesdale Media Podcast?

We cover the sport of CrossFit from all angles. We talk with athletes, coaches and celebrities that compete and surround in the sport of CrossFit at all levels. We also bring you Breaking News, Human Interest Stories and report on the Methodology of CrossFit. We also use the methodology to make ourselves the fittest we can be.

Well, today's off to a roaring start.

Let's get this ball rolling.

From the gym to the screen, yeah,

we cover it all.

Midday motivation every time you press

call.

Lunch with the Clydesdale.

Cowboy bring the heat.

Crossfit, boobies, music on repeat.

Half hour hustle, yeah,

we building that brand.

Grab a plate, tune in now,

you part of the fam.

It's lunchtime.

Nailed it.

Finally got the yabba-doo.

Nailed it.

Now I got the timing down.

You know what that is?

It's very nice.

It's very nice.

We actually look like a show that's

prepared.

Almost.

I don't believe it.

It's not actually a thing,

but we look like it,

which is the important part of that.

Yeah.

It's,

it's all about the perception and the

appearance.

Cause yeah, whatever.

Hey dude, I had a,

when I was waiting tables forever ago,

I had a,

my floor manager stopped me and said,

slow down.

Cause I was running around like a crazy

person.

I was in the weeds.

Perception is reality.

Slow down.

You're going to be fine.

And I was like, okay, cool.

Just want to tell you guys,

before we even started the show,

it's been happening like this all week.

We get into story time before show time.

Before the show starts.

And one day it was Vicky.

One day it was me.

Today,

Corey started a story at twelve fifteen.

At twelve fifteen.

And if you have watched the show at

all,

Corey starting a story means we were going

to hit the air till about twelve twenty

five.

at least at least at least that's gonna

be a minimum because yeah and it's about

a movie so like a whole synopsis if

you haven't seen um hell or high water

it's a taylor sheridan movie which should

tell you a lot you need you know

all you need to know right there um

fantastic film chris pine um what is the

other guy's name uh ben foster

Or brothers.

The Indian chief from Yellowstone.

Yep.

He's a cop.

And what's his name?

The dude.

The dude.

Bridges, yeah.

Yeah, Bridges is it.

Or cops.

The other two are brothers.

They're robbing banks.

They're trying to catch them and whatnot.

And what I was trying to tell you

about is the two cops go into this

restaurant in the middle of Texas

somewhere, right?

Central Texas.

And this old lady comes up to him

who's waiting tables.

And she says, what don't you want?

And they kind of look at her and

she said,

we ain't never served nothing here but

T-bone steaks.

She said,

I've been working here for forty years.

We ain't never served nothing but T-bone

steaks and baked potatoes.

So you either don't want the green beans

or you don't want the corn.

So what don't you want?

it's it's what is the best one of

the best things in all of cinema that's

why i'm concerned just because like the

way she delivers it and the way that

they they react to it and whatnot and

uh like before that she had said she

said i'm gonna work in here nobody ever

ordered nothing but t-bone steak and

mashed potatoes except that one came down

from new york tried to order trout

We don't serve trout.

And when she finishes writing their stuff

down and walks off,

Bridges looks at old boy and says, well,

I ain't got to worry about this place

getting robbed.

It's fantastic.

And just like our show,

that has no connection to anything else we

were talking about.

Not at all.

Not at all.

I don't even remember why I was telling

you that right before we started.

I was trying to make the connection as

you were finishing up and I have not

made one.

Don't even remember.

Anyway, Hello Hot Water.

If you have it on one of your

streaming services that you use,

highly recommend watching that tonight.

You'll enjoy it.

So last night I tuned in to the

Glinton Things podcast.

Yep.

And Megan was not wearing black.

And in fact,

she was wearing a Clydesdale media shirt.

Oh, how about that?

In the brightest blue.

And she wasn't dressed as death.

It's kind of weird.

Clydesdale media shirt actually made her

look alive.

Are we sure it was her?

I was caught off guard.

I was caught off guard.

But really,

really appreciate seeing the Clydesdale

Meteor shirt in the wild.

I wore mine to work out one day

last week.

I don't know what day it was.

And she's back to black today.

She is now dressed as death again.

Every time I go,

if I go to a comp without my

wife,

I have one standing rule that she sends

me off with.

It's to not buy any more black t-shirts.

You know,

I make fun of her for that,

but my wardrobe is probably ninety percent

black.

If you open my t-shirt drawer in my

dresser,

you're going to find a lot of black

shirts.

Sometimes I can't even help it.

Like you sign up for a comp,

they give you a shirt.

A lot of times is black.

The craziest thing I got out of this

whole thing is I text her this morning.

I'm like,

I almost shed a tear when I saw

our shirt on you.

And she said, and I even showered.

So it not only made her look alive,

it inspired her to shower.

To just clean up a little bit.

How about that?

You're welcome, Joseph.

That's fantastic.

Yeah.

So yesterday, let's get into this.

We ended the show yesterday with the

clickbait that was Matt Frazier will be

competing again.

And then it started to roll into if

he did, in fact, compete,

which none of us are saying he is

going to do the games again.

Right.

None of us.

Um, no.

How would he fare if he in fact

actually did come back?

Yeah.

And I,

I am of the belief that he would

not be the Matt Frazier that we came

to know.

I,

I don't think he has it in him

to get to that point again in training

after having a couple of kids.

living a softer life and enjoying life

again,

I don't think it's in the realm to

get back to that dark place.

You need to be,

to be a Matt Frazier.

And I don't think,

I think he would have a hard time

making it to the games.

Let it,

if he did the people saying top tenor

out of their minds,

the people saying top ten after seven

years gone.

or seven seasons, let's say, right?

Cause it's been twenty, twenty,

twenty or out of their minds.

I'm sorry.

It's hard enough for people who train

regularly to make the games,

to continue to make the games.

And the dude was an absolute killer in

his time.

Like the most dominant athlete to do it,

not named Tia Claire to me,

by a stretch of the imagination.

If he was in the men's field,

he wasn't just winning.

He was winning by hundreds of points over

everybody else.

I mean, for Christ's sake,

when it was just five of them,

he had enough points to win first,

second and third.

But it ain't going to happen.

And then the other factor I think that

people aren't putting into this,

look at the evolution of the programming

from just from twenty twenty to today.

Yeah.

How much more power output there is,

how much more size matters.

And I don't know if people remember Matt

Frazier was not big.

He's my size.

Right.

Like he's just a tick taller than Colton.

He's Matt,

Matt Fraser and I are almost the exact

same size.

He is a hell of a lot strong

or was anyway.

I have no idea what his strength numbers

look like now.

I'm assuming they're pretty good,

but five foot six,

one hundred ninety ish pounds,

something like that.

When he was competing,

he was he walked around at one ninety

five, not quite two hundred.

And.

Right.

I don't want to say that these are

the guys my size winning or over with,

but right now, that's not the trend.

Right now, you got the Dallin Peppers,

the James Spriggs,

the Jason Hoppers that are the big guys,

man.

They are big dudes,

and they figured out how to move.

Adler made the comment recently how hard

it is to keep up with the younger

athletes, and he's still competing.

Yeah, exactly.

And Jeff Adler, who won the games, FYI.

Yeah.

Is it?

And Adler's a little bit bigger than

Fraser.

Plus the toll it takes on your body.

Like all that competing,

all that training.

There's only one human being that I have

not seen it take a toll on yet.

And we're going to talk about her real

quick.

Right.

I would also say this.

When Matt was competing,

when Matt was winning consecutive titles,

beating the crap out of everybody,

he only had to worry about himself.

That's it.

No kids.

It was him and Sammy.

That was it.

She took care of him.

They lived their life,

did whatever they had to do until they

didn't.

And, I mean, Sammy,

they had a kid within, what,

a year of him being retired?

maybe a year and a half,

something like that.

So that's a planned thing.

I'm not saying you can't be competitive

having a child, two children,

whatever the case may be, right?

Roman's got a baby.

Roman's kid is, what, probably four now,

something like that, three,

somewhere up in that area.

I'm not exactly sure.

And he's still fairly competitive when

he's not injured like he is apparently

now.

But it changes the dynamic a lot, right?

If you are any sort of a father

worth your salt, right?

There's other things that matter, dude,

and they come first.

But it's even beyond that.

Here's the deal.

When Matt was great,

he was his entire camp's priority.

Yeah.

He was Sammy's priority.

He was O'Keefe's priority, right?

And all the other coaches he had and

nutritionists and all of that stuff,

right?

Yeah.

He was all of their number one priority.

Listen,

I know a lot of mothers who love

their kids.

I am telling you,

Matt is not the number one priority

anymore.

No.

I lived that life.

I went down on the priority list the

minute my daughter was born.

And that's something you just have to

understand.

Yeah.

It's all right.

It's just life.

Right.

And I see that like his mental game,

like Frazier's mental game was top notch.

But it was,

he had to like walk away for a

couple months just to get back to that.

Like now that you've not done that for

six years,

it's not something you can just flip a

switch and it comes back.

Matt was also, when he prioritized,

he prioritized.

He missed things.

Like major life events,

people's weddings and stuff like that

because he was training to win the games.

He wasn't training to make the games.

He was training to win the games.

And so like nothing else mattered.

And you don't just dive back into that

with two kids.

Like,

you can't just turn that all off and

go, well, that's all I care about anymore.

So, you know, to hell with them kids.

I'm not dealing with any of that.

Now, you can still go do things, sure.

But to be the Matt Fraser that we

all knew, six years later, five, seven,

whatever many years it's going to be at

this point, no, dude, I don't see it.

And what made him great is he was

willing to hurt more than anybody else.

Right.

That was his superpower.

Ain't nobody going to hurt like I hurt.

Absolutely.

And to convince yourself it's worth going

to that place again is not as easy

as some of the speculation that's being

thrown about.

Yeah.

I just don't see it.

uh in the chat i just can't see

him going indie with his old mentality uh

and how he talked about it exactly exactly

tristan understands apparently we're

making joseph high he's having lunch time

at eighteen thousand feet it's a really

specific number

I think he's undercover on a plane with

snakes.

But he's tired of them.

I bet he's tired of them.

Oh, man.

But anyway,

I just wanted to get that out because

I see like Dallin Pepper and Justin

Medeiros all talking talk.

Oh, they did a whole segment on him.

Yeah.

Right.

But I see like there is reverence for

him and how great he was.

As there should be.

He earned that.

right and he deserves all of that respect

absolutely every bit of it but to wrap

that engine up again i think is a

much bigger step than and they probably

they just probably did it as a

conversation piece and not a thought out

piece

because we do that a lot on this

show.

A lot of what we talk about is

not thought out.

It's just viewed from our, our,

our mouths.

And when you do a podcast,

sometimes that's the best content,

but yeah.

Uh, Ramirez is going back to Cali, Cali,

uh, for some California.

No, probably not.

Oh,

And of course,

the woman always has to jump in and

correct the man.

Because wouldn't you actually be at thirty

two thousand feet?

Are you flying the plane, Meg?

Lead that man along.

Corey,

what you are saying is with respect.

What Frazier was,

how good would seventy five percent of

what Frazier was be today?

Nobody knows what percentage of Matt

Frazier that he would have today.

I'm just saying it would be an uphill

climb to get back to what he was.

Do I think he could do it?

I think he could do it if the

stars aligned and he was willing to do

it and his camp was willing to go

all in again.

I just don't think any of that's going

to happen.

It's a big ass to go from,

and not nothing.

I know he's been working out, right?

I mean, that's just mentality stuff,

right?

He just been sitting around for six years,

sitting on his ass doing nothing.

But there's a different level of,

the reason Tia has been able to have

a baby, come back, have a baby,

and possibly come back again like she's

doing is because she never stopped

training during any of it.

She trains like a psycho the entire time.

When Matt walked away,

he visibly got skinnier.

Everybody saw it.

I was like, damn,

that dude doesn't even look the same

anymore because he had to work to maintain

what he had.

You don't just pick that back up.

Eating is a job.

Yeah, man.

Not an easy one.

Not an easy one.

I'm with you, Joseph.

I'd love to be just twenty five percent

of what you used to be.

Dude, I take five.

I would like to be able to just

add our size, his size and my size,

be able to row a quarter of how

good he could actually row for what the

size was.

It's ridiculous.

Tristan's right.

It's a lose-lose for him to do it.

Absolutely.

There's nothing to be gained by coming

back.

No.

He's not going to compete in Masters.

That's not going to happen.

He's not going to do...

If he does a Xenon or an Ethics

or something like that,

that makes way more sense.

That's a one weekend thing.

That's how you can get fit,

get yourself really fit, get out there.

Holy shit, Matt Fraser's doing a Xenon.

How cool is that to see?

And he could do it as a partner.

Yeah, absolutely.

Just for fun...

I don't know.

Avera says,

I think I'd actually prefer to see Mal

come back than Frazier.

Mal is still young and unfulfilled.

I don't think Mal's ever getting back to

that headspace again.

Once you leave that realm,

like look at a boxer that's retired and

they come back five years later,

still fit, still can do all the movements.

But once you leave that all-in mindset,

it's hard to get back there.

I'm not saying it's impossible by any

stretch of the imagination,

but it's not the norm.

It's not, you know,

it's a slow ramp up to that over

your life to where Mal was in twenty

twenty one, twenty twenty two.

That was her all in.

She had built up to that point.

She had calloused her mind.

She was all in and she did it.

She went so hard at it that it

snapped.

It wiped her out.

Walk away.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So after you get to a point where

you snap and walk away,

how do you push yourself to that limit

again?

I would say the exceptions are guys like

Mike Tyson.

You hear Roy Jones?

No.

If you listen to Roy Jones talk about

when he fought Mike.

Oh, come on.

Roy Jones was seventy two when they

fought.

OK.

And Mike was fifty three.

And he said, that dude is still stupid.

And it's because Mike never loses that

mentality.

It never goes away.

But he's the exception, not the rule.

I'm not saying his body was still doing

all the same things he could,

but his mind is still like that.

When he gets in the ring,

he's in the ring.

He doesn't give a shit about anything

else.

Exception, not the rule.

I've watched every single Mike Tyson fight

that has ever been.

The dude changed.

The dude changed.

He got a lot of money,

and things changed.

He was not the fighter he was.

He was not willing to do the training

that he did before.

I would argue that.

Now,

when he gets in those three minutes in

a round,

does he want to fight like he used

to?

Sure.

But he didn't do the training for the

six weeks before to get to a spot

where his body would allow him.

And that's where the change is made.

I'm not arguing that.

I'm arguing that when he gets in there,

that killer is still in there.

Because it never goes away.

He doesn't know anything different.

Right,

but it's not about the killer in the

ring.

It's about the killer in the barn and

the killer running the training montage.

Right, all of that stuff.

That's when the killer still has to be

there.

Can you do it every day of the

week for the six months leading up to

that?

I don't doubt that Frazier could walk into

Madison or Albany and turn it on for

a game.

Sure,

but could he do it for the six

months getting him ready for that?

No, he's a different person now.

That's the piece that's missing.

All right.

All right.

he became the Rocky versus Clubber Lang in

the first fight.

Yeah,

the Rocky that had the big house and

had the big...

And how did they have to fight Clubber?

He had to go to the hood in

LA and train with Apollo and get dirty

in the crusty gym again and have the

lash out of Adrian telling him that he's

wasting away his opportunity.

And why?

It's money.

It's money.

It's just money.

I wonder if a less invested,

more balanced amount actually could be

more effective than the version it broke

down.

I think in this day and age,

if you're not coming at

the field is getting too good to not

come at peak.

Yeah.

I was going to say the same thing.

Like I Haley, Haley's a perfect example.

Yeah.

Like she backed away.

But let's be clear.

Mal was better than the best.

Mal was better than the best Haley.

Yeah, absolutely.

But what I'm saying is that Haley comes

back and everybody has all these

expectations, right?

Oh, look at her.

She's put on weight.

She looks fantastic.

She's clearly going to be stronger, blah,

blah, whatever.

And.

taking that time off,

taking that time away and whatnot,

a little bit less invested.

Now she comes back and instead of being

somewhere hanging around the top five,

top whatever, blah, blah, blah.

Now she's coming down a little bit and

like the expectations have fallen off of

her.

Is she having more fun?

Absolutely.

Is she a threat to get on the

podium?

Nobody thinks that anymore.

In my forties,

I would dunk a basketball every day just

so I could.

I quit for like six months and poof,

it was gone.

Six years is a long time.

It's a great analogy, Larry.

Yeah.

If you don't lose it,

you don't use it, you lose it, right?

It's a perishable skill.

Yep.

It is a perishable skill.

Even mindset.

If you don't use the mindset for a

long time, it's hard to get it back.

Yeah.

Yes, Leto.

Let's just say it's hard to be at

the very top and not be a little

mentally ill.

Right.

All right.

I was going to do this.

I'm going to close this down.

I want to share this that popped up

on my feed today since we're talking about

all this stuff.

Might as well talk some more

hypotheticals.

And then final question.

How excited are you at the thought,

because I'm very excited about this,

of Tia coming back next year and you

two competing head-to-head at the CrossFit

Games?

Yeah, I mean,

I did team with Tia for the Waterpalooza

SoCal event and that was really fun.

I got to know her quite well and

she's, yeah, she's fun.

So that would be

one hell of a weekend.

Yeah.

Have you heard much?

Is she coming back?

I have not heard.

I haven't asked her directly.

I'm getting, I kind of,

I kind of think she will.

I believe she will.

She's too much of a competitor and seeing

your dominance and your, your rise.

I think she'll want to take a stab

at it.

And then final.

She'll want to take a stab at it.

I love the, why?

What have you heard?

Yes.

Yes.

That was my favorite part of the whole

thing.

Cause, cause she,

cause Kregel talks the tough, like, Oh,

that'd be a hell of a weekend.

Yeah.

Uh, but what have you heard?

Yeah.

So have you, have you heard,

have you heard anything?

Like what have you heard?

Yeah.

that's hilarious that is absolutely if

you've heard something i i need to get

to the gym right now so i would

yeah like it's like a it's a moment

of panic right like what have you heard

i don't because like she's got all these

other things going in her mind right like

wfp finals and uh rogue and blah blah

blah like all the stuff she's training for

and all of a sudden dave brings up

tia like

relatively casually, you know, wanting,

asking her the question.

Everybody wants to know kudos today for

that.

And she just, Oh yeah, no,

that would be fantastic.

It'd be a great weekend.

Wait, wait, what have you heard?

I think, uh,

it's it's like the when you're when you

like dream about what might be or what

could be coming and but it's all like

hypothetical and it's out in the future so

you don't really know and then all of

a sudden someone slaps you with reality

that yeah this is going to happen and

i in that moment because the way dave

was talking about it it was like he

already knew something and she was like oh

oh do we know is that a thing

is that is that a thing that's going

to happen

Whoa, whoa.

Okay.

Because if that's a thing...

I need to get off this boat.

I need to go.

I need...

I got to go get on a bike

or something.

I got to... Oh, that's good.

That is really good.

That needs to be...

Did you clip that or is that a

clip that's already out?

That's a clip that's out.

Good.

That's going to get a lot of traction.

And so...

When we talk about Tia,

it's a completely different story than

what we just talked about with Mike Tyson,

Mal, and Matt.

Because Tia has never stepped away from...

Tia's never stepped away from this.

That woman probably is competing with

Shane in the house over sweeping the floor

or running down to the mailbox or...

I wouldn't want to play cards with her.

Like just like, and not even like poker,

like battle just where you just throw one

down.

Cause as soon as she gets a win,

she's going to flip the table over.

Like, and, and she posted a workout today.

Yeah, of course she did.

I was like getting back after the birth

of the baby and doing all the like,

and looks.

Yeah.

Like Tia, like she didn't have a baby.

And so, like,

she is the one exception that the years

and years of doing all this stuff seems

to have taken no effect on her ability

to compete.

There's been very little degradation to

her ability in all of that time.

She just seems to be getting better,

which is frightening, really.

or not even that she's getting better,

it's that nobody seems to be able to

catch her no matter what happens.

She's on baby number two now, right?

Like you said, just posted a thing,

getting back into training, right?

It's October sixteenth.

I can guarantee you by December,

she's going to be posting shit, you know,

somebody's going to be posting stuff for

her doing something ridiculous and

nobody's going to bat an eye about it

because it'll just seem like normal life.

juggling the two kids while snatching a

barbell like something that doesn't even

make any kind of sense and so all

the stuff we talked about getting back

into that dark space and that mentality

and tia never left no that's what i

was getting at if you don't if you

never leave you can't you don't have to

come back it's easy to get back you

don't worry about getting back if you

never leave

And like all of her content is always

like, well, you never know.

Well, you never,

like she never committed to a retirement

ever.

The closest she came was leaving her shoes

on the floor,

and then basically she went back and got

them afterwards.

I thought the only thing was Shane telling

Sean Woodland that she was going to

retire,

and Tia never said it publicly to anybody,

and then made Sean look like an ass.

Poor Sean.

I felt bad for him for that one,

dude.

For the last time.

Yeah.

No, Sean, not for the last time.

All right.

The chat's talking about it.

I was going to bring it up,

but here we go.

On the Australian boys, I think.

Did you miss your flight?

Just cancelling a couple of hours ago.

Oh, no.

Yeah, I'm just moving to Wisconsin,

Madison.

Oh, really?

Yeah, yeah.

Maybe, yeah, maybe.

That's exciting.

Maybe Saturday.

Yeah, yeah, Saturday.

The games isn't there anymore.

I'm just making sure everything can, yeah.

You've always loved Wisconsin, right?

Or Madison?

I think that's enough of that.

He basically says he's moving from

Cookeville to Madison and that he's doing

it because of the education for his kid.

That the education is better in Madison.

I have weird thoughts in my head.

Yes.

I'm not sure I want to be a

dense updates part two.

So I'm going to leave those thoughts in

my head.

Yeah.

We'll leave that alone.

But the other thing is what the hell

is happening at mayhem?

Haley leaves.

Austin is rumored to leave.

Roman leaves.

I mean, he's leaving Tennessee.

Does that mean that he's leaving mayhem?

I mean, does anybody know?

don't know what to know aside from

whatever he just said what the hell is

in madison

Well,

Carolyn Prevost would tell you a really

good college where she won a couple

national championships.

Great.

You think that's where Roman's going?

Well,

that was his first home in the United

States, just so everybody is clear.

Right.

The people who helped him get out of

Russia to the United States were from

Madison and

That was his first home.

That is where he first trained.

And it wasn't until six months in that

he tried out a couple gyms around the

country and ended up deciding on Cookville

and Mayhem.

I mean,

the man can move wherever he wants to

go.

It does seem like there's a mass exodus

going on, but like,

there's also a bunch of people that are

still there.

Quinn Robinson.

Still there.

Freaking, what's his name?

Everybody's rumoring that he's leaving,

the rabbit farmer,

but he hasn't actually gone anywhere yet

as far as I know anyway.

Well,

I guess some proven coaches have said it,

but it's not officially confirmed by any

social media post.

And I guess in this day and age,

if you don't see it on Instagram,

it's not real.

I can tell you I snatched one eighty

five Thursday morning,

but if you didn't actually see it on

Instagram, did it happen?

No one knows.

Shanna says Noah Wilson is there.

You have Quinn Robinson.

I mean, there's some young talent there.

I'm not saying that.

But all of the synonymous names with

mayhem are gone.

Like coaches have left.

Athletes have left.

It's just weird.

I know Angelo is still there,

but to see Angelo DiCicco on a whip

team as opposed to a mayhem team was

just bizarre.

But again, they said they were done,

and so they recruited four new people.

I could not...

put the two things together in my head

to save my life.

Like watching, because I watch the teams,

because I know people that compete on

teams fairly regularly.

So I'm one of the few people who

actually watches teams and cares about

them.

And I kept saying,

Angelo DiCicco and not on the Mayhem team.

And I was like,

that does not compute in my head.

But it was a thing.

But I mean, clearly he's still there,

right?

So, yeah, I don't, I don't know.

Something's going on over there.

Like people don't leave for no reason.

People don't move away from,

for no reason.

People don't, you know,

and maybe it's just stages of life type

stuff.

And it's just the fact that you don't

get to see it or you do get

to see us to say more often now

because of social media, right?

Because everything is instant right at

your fingertips.

You find out the second things happen,

right?

uh that you get to see more of

it and you realize that more of it

that that's happening but it doesn't seem

to be happening at brute it doesn't seem

to be happening at proven it doesn't seem

to be or if it does maybe i'm

just not in those circles or maybe it's

more publicized because it's mayhem and

mayhem has been around forever and it's

rich's place and i don't know

Mayhem's that place that you looked at as

it is the rock of the community.

Like it will be here maybe longer than

CrossFit.

And as an affiliate,

it's probably doing just fine.

Oh, I'm sure.

I'm sure their affiliate fees are covered

by their memberships.

Right, and their programming.

Because I know tons of gyms that use

their affiliate programming.

I can think of three that are within

an hour of me.

I think they said at one time they

had three thousand gyms using their

affiliate programming.

I can think of three right now that

are all an hour from me, roughly.

all that all follow i mean it's weird

it's it's crazy yeah um brute too young

and small mayhem so big easy to notice

major athlete changes i actually think

I hear what you're saying, Shanna,

but I actually think if someone left

Brute,

it would be a way bigger deal because

they're small.

Well,

and because of their recent successes,

right?

I mean,

they're literally shuffling people onto

the podium.

Like,

get up on there because that's what we're

doing.

So, yeah.

I mean, think back to Underdogs.

When Ricky left, when Danielle left,

the news that that made was massive.

Right.

Because they were much smaller than like,

I couldn't even really tell you the Mayhem

roster anymore.

Because one,

it got so big that I couldn't even

keep up with who the athletes were.

I'm trying.

So the initial two males that come to

mind are Noah and Quinn, right?

Right.

And I'm not going to – because I

know like Gi is probably still there,

I think.

Yeah.

As far as I know,

Gi is still there.

But like as far as the – on

the female –

I know Caroline Klutz is a mayhem athlete,

but you're not talking...

And that's probably it.

We are in this got-to-have-it-now world

where patience is way less key to success

in some people's minds.

And that's why Brute is getting inundated

with people.

That's why Proven is getting inundated

with people.

Because of their recent successes,

they are...

People are looking for that quick fix.

It's the Sarah Sigmundsdottir syndrome.

Who's on her seventh comeback at this

point?

I stopped watching the videos and I love

the girl to death.

She seems like a fun human being to

be around.

All positive, all smiles, laughing,

giggling, cutting up the entire time.

Sweet baby.

Either go get yourself in the master's

division where you can compete because

it's only five workouts at a time or

like start whatever your, your, Hey,

follow Sarah Sigma's daughter channel and,

you know, grow your YouTube presence.

I don't know.

There you go.

Apparently,

she launched a fitness program,

which is good.

She ought to have enough coaching

experience from her eighteen different

coaches that she's had since twenty

fourteen to be able to put enough stuff

together to have a fitness program.

You know what I feel like right now

is that teacher where the kid called off

sick,

it wasn't going to be at school and

see that state see them texting with the

other students.

Like, oh, right, right.

I had a doctor's appointment.

Yeah, that is fantastic.

And then the Pancheck piece,

if they wear the Mayhem shirt,

it's a name only.

They're all up in Cleveland.

They're all working out at Mentality or in

Scott's Garage or in Saxon's Garage.

They are their own mini camp again.

I was about to say,

and they're writing their own stuff.

They're not getting on the Mayhem app and

doing what's Rich doing or whatever that

program might be,

whatever that ends up looking like.

No, they are getting in there.

They have enough knowledge between the

three of them to write their own stuff

on the board.

It was telling that Mayhem didn't field a

camp at SoCal.

Battle of the camps did not include

mayhem.

Because I am betting you, I'm betting you,

Dylan,

when he thought up this idea and wrote

down the list of camps,

I am betting you, dogs to donuts,

that TTT was not listed above mayhem.

Oh, no.

No.

TTT brought three Masters athletes.

I mean, come on.

The male side.

They actually were fun to watch.

I'm glad it turned out that way.

They're the three best friends that anyone

could have.

Of course they were fun to watch.

They were absolutely fun to watch because

if me, you, and, I don't know,

pick a person, me, you,

and Vicky were on a team,

we'd be fun to watch because we'd be

fucking cutting up the entire time, right?

Doing stuff, cool, awesome.

Doesn't mean we're going to be real good.

It just means that we'd be fun to

watch, right?

Relative to whatever field that we were

out there on.

Same thing with them three guys.

They are fun to watch because they've been

knowing each other forever.

They're really good friends and they're

really fit.

Yeah,

of course they're going to be fun to

watch.

Hell yes, they are.

Is TTT as a camp going to be

listed above Mayhem?

And I don't think it brings,

their names don't bring people to the

party like the Mayhem names used to.

No.

And that's nothing against them

whatsoever.

Like,

them three dudes is legitimate monsters.

But, I mean, come on.

Now,

there may be a day in the future

that Lydia, Annika,

and Hannah bring people to the table.

Yeah.

But even at that,

they're not a Hayley Adams yet.

I think Rich attracted a lot of athletes

and he has less and less to do

with competitive CrossFit now.

I think you're onto the right point,

Terry.

But I think the biggest thing is Rich's

life has gotten in the way.

Yeah.

He has three kids, all playing sports,

all doing activities,

and he's just not working out as much

anymore.

It used to be Rich would write a

program,

he would work out and invite everybody to

come work out with him.

And that just doesn't happen anymore.

He's got to work out when he has

time,

which is probably early in the morning or

late at night because he's running kids

from here, there, and everywhere.

And so his presence is probably not at

Mayhem, the affiliate,

or the barn like it used to be.

he is probably called in when they need

to when they need him for something kind

of like last year or year before that

whenever uh ben and blair had him helping

with the programming for uh for ncc right

hey man can you mind come take a

look at these with us and whatnot yeah

absolutely so i do i make time for

that

Yeah,

I do think he's involved in competitive

CrossFit in that way.

I do think he consults.

I do think he programs.

I do think he reaches out and talks

to people.

But he's not doing the day-to-day stuff at

his gym like he used to do where

you could go hang with Rich for the

day.

Yeah.

You show up and just, hey,

let's go do stuff with Rich.

Yeah.

Thanks, Yvonne.

Wherever Lydia goes,

there will be fish heads.

I was trying to explain that.

So Jameson was watching,

my eight-year-old.

We were watching that,

and they said her name, right?

And Lydia Fish, whatever.

And Jameson looked at me, she goes,

her name is Fish?

I said, yeah, baby.

Her last name is Fish.

I said...

her fans call their self fish heads and

she was mortified until i showed her a

picture of the fish heads with the actual

fish head on and she then she was

fine with it yeah made your oldest

standard jaw it's weird you people in

louisiana take fish heads and make soup

out of it it's a different type of

relationship hundred percent uh shana says

i wonder if mayhem is concentrating more

on religious projects and base i don't i

really honestly think

that it is Rich is so busy in

life that the CrossFit thing has fallen

down the priority list.

Just like when my wife had a daughter

and I fell down the priority list,

Rich has three kids and the mayhem empire

has dropped down a notch on his priority

list.

Kids, wife, mayhem.

And God's probably up there too.

It's probably God, kids, wife, foot.

Yeah.

It's like the Marine order hierarchy.

I will say this.

So like at beach brawl a couple weeks

ago, mayhem is one of the sponsors, right?

They didn't have an actual tent,

like a mayhem tent.

Like, you know, people open it up,

you know,

They got a tent and they got all

their logos and shit on it.

They just had one year to go to

Academy Sports and Outdoors.

And they were selling their shirts out of

it.

And Luke Parker was there like hanging

out, talking to people.

That was it.

That did not used to be the case.

The last time I was there,

which was twenty twenty four.

Yeah.

The last time I was there in twenty

twenty four,

they had like the mayhem tent,

like capitalized mayhem tent.

Right.

With mayhem shit and written all over it.

All kinds of stuff set up.

Buffalo Brew was there like selling coffee

and whatnot.

It was a whole ass thing.

I just found that weird.

Like,

here's one of the sponsors of this event.

And they literally have some stuff I could

have brought with me in the back of

my Jeep if I drove it up there.

I don't know.

It was odd.

i think they have so much going on

now that some of their presence are going

to be like they they are going nowhere

right they are still going to be a

big brand in the space it's just their

focus on elite athletes is probably not as

high as it used to be yeah i

think that's what uh steve is saying right

here like maybe to focus on what he's

doing within the empire shifted rather

than less of focus overall

broadening the base rather than focusing

on a few athletes at the top,

at the tip of the spear,

that would make a lot more sense, right?

Putting more into the programming,

putting more into the day-to-day mayhem

athlete stuff, right?

Entirely possible.

We'll never know.

Well,

the guy's talking about getting a full

knee replacement by the end of the year.

Plus, he's hurt.

So he's not working out like he normally

did.

No.

Like, none of that stuff.

Although he is doing an Ironman.

Like in two weeks.

That's because he's just a psycho.

He is an absolute psycho.

I remember it was Hobart saying,

like back whenever basically Hobart was

basically living there and whatnot,

he said they would get done with whatever

session for the day, eat dinner,

and he said dinner would be like

eight-thirty at night, nine o'clock,

and Rich would be like,

we got to go run ten miles.

And they just...

go out the door and they'd run ten

miles and they'd come back and then they'd

go to sleep like that's an insane people

don't do that fyi that's just not a

thing that just happens

Um,

the last thing I wanted to just bring

up a little bit is I,

I watched killer on Savan today.

And it's funny because like at the

beginning of the week,

I was pretty upset at what happened to

Hiller and everything that YouTube has

done and pulled and I don't know,

got me into a space when I see

what he's done in a week.

Not even a week.

In five days.

Yeah.

I'm really excited about the prospects for

the future of different things.

But what I...

There was a comment made that I just

wanted to kind of talk out.

And that is that...

Andrew leaving YouTube and going to his

own platform hurts the other content

creators in the space because he's pulling

his audience away from the algorithm that

we all use.

That's a bold statement.

And my thought is, okay,

it's his life and he shouldn't be

concerned with any of us.

Not at all.

He had his whole life ripped away from

him.

And if he has a solution,

go do it.

Go be powerful.

Go take on the world.

I'm behind you.

Because if you show success,

away the monopoly of YouTube starts to

deteriorate.

Yeah.

Well, and here's the thing, dude.

If you are said creator who's, well,

he's pulling views away,

messing up the algorithm.

If your success is based on his success,

you need to work harder.

Right.

End of story.

Like if you're,

you think if Grant thinks that Grant's

success is tied to the Hiller success,

because God forbid Hiller says anything

without Grant saying something about it.

I love you, Grant.

I'm just picking on you.

He would never say that.

Then you have a, that's a you problem.

That's not a Hiller problem.

And that's not him taking away anything

from you.

That's you not good enough to stand on

your own.

That that's,

that's a mind blowing thing to me that

somebody would say something like that.

Well, he's just taking away stuff from us.

No, he's not.

He's saving himself,

which is what everybody should be able to

do at some point.

If you can't save yourself,

you can't save anybody else.

Good night, dude.

I'm sorry.

I, at the end of the day,

you have to look out for number one.

Yeah.

Right.

I love everybody in our chat.

I love my friends.

We talked yesterday about our little

circle of trust, you know,

that I love my people.

But at the end of the day,

if if I'm needed elsewhere to be able

to provide for my family,

that's what I got to do.

Yeah.

Right.

And so.

Anyway,

the other comment was it's hurting

CrossFit by him moving away from YouTube.

And this one got me fired up because

when CrossFit stops hurting themselves,

then I'll worry about where Andrew Hiller

is and how that affects CrossFit.

Because we have mentioned CrossFit media

and the lack of effort and the lack

of connection to different things in the

space is ridiculous.

It's comical.

It really, really is.

When you look at this...

We've had a discussion.

We don't need to rehash it again, but...

Their disconnect is actually comical.

It does not make it.

It's just silly.

And with everything, right?

We talked about it yesterday.

The stuff that we're supposed to care

about,

that you have absolutely no connection to

what's going on because why are you

telling me what to care about?

Mind-blowing.

But to think that it's going to hurt

CrossFit for Hiller to just shift from

here to here so that he can continue

doing what he was doing.

And to act like he did it,

that's implying that he did it himself.

For all intents and purposes,

YouTube fired him Monday morning.

He did not want this.

He did not ask for that.

If you listen to him this morning,

when he was getting this information from

other people that this might be a thing,

he went and scrubbed all of the videos

where he talked about it and had a

link to it, pulled them off.

He missed one, and the bots got him.

he said this morning so ain't like he

left because he wanted to i like the

convenience of everything being on youtube

we'll just have to change my habits go

to two sites it's not even that hard

it's so not even that hard

It's really not.

But I do understand that concept, right?

Sure.

On YouTube,

you just go video to video to video.

It tells you what you want to see,

so you don't even have to really search

anymore.

But maybe that's not a good thing.

Yeah.

It falls along the same lines of CrossFit

telling us what we should care about.

Right.

As opposed to me going,

I think I want to look at this

instead.

Hiller needs CrossFit more than not the

other way around.

See, that's where I completely disagree.

One, if you listen to Andrew,

I don't think this is going to be

a CrossFit-only channel.

No.

This is going to be a fitness hub.

Yep.

It is going to be a social media

fitness hub.

And the things that CrossFit refused to do

by partnering with, say,

High Rocks or Tough Mudders or whatever.

Whoever.

Whoever.

Andrew's going to do.

You're going to have bodybuilding.

You're going to have power lifting.

You're going to have high rocks channels

all on this.

No rep TV.

Maybe that becomes the hub for your

fitness stuff.

Yeah.

Cause he is down for tape.

Yeah.

Cause he's down for all of it.

If you talk, listen to him at all.

He looks at all of that stuff.

the bodybuilding content,

the figure championships, the whatever,

like he is into all that stuff.

So you can apply to be a creator

on his channel.

You don't have to be a CrossFit creator.

He's not limiting himself to that because

that would be silly.

He knows that.

The dude is not stupid by any stretch

of the imagination.

So, hey,

if you can provide something of value to

his channel by being a creator on it,

boom, he's going to put you on there.

Why wouldn't he?

That would be stupid for him not to.

We still have other social media platforms

that everyone uses, like Instagram.

I often learn about new videos from the

IG platform.

Same, same, same, same.

Usually, I don't – because I get –

I always say I don't get notifications on

my phone.

YouTube does send me notifications.

Most of the time, I don't read them.

So I will get some from that.

But nine times out of ten,

I know that there's a new Hiller video

or knew that there was a new Hiller

video on YouTube because he made a post

about it on Instagram.

So now I just got to go somewhere

different.

It's really not that hard to do.

It's just not...

Thanks, Yvonne.

What's up?

Clydesdale's joining No Rep TV.

Listen, to me,

everything's on the table at all times.

I have no allegiance to YouTube,

but I'm not doing this to make a

ton of money.

I am close to retirement on my job.

I'm just trying to have fun with it

until I get there.

I don't know if I'm right for what

No Rep TV is going to be.

I don't know what the vision for No

Rep TV is going to be.

I don't think this show would be on

No Rep TV by any stretch of the

imagination.

Yeah,

I don't think this show in its current

format, which is lack of format.

Which is no format.

Would fit with what they're trying to

accomplish over there.

Does that make us the Seinfeld of lunch

shows?

Because it's a show about nothing?

Yeah.

Now, the Sunday show, I think,

aligns with... The Sunday show, for sure.

With what he's doing.

And it has way more following,

way better numbers than this show,

and is probably better equipped to move

over to No Rep TV.

If we...

But I would not make that decision

exclusively even though I own all of this.

I would talk to my people and see

if that's something that we were all

willing to do.

Right.

It's a whole different relationship at

that point.

But it's wild to me that people have

those thoughts because you're basically

rooting for him to fail in my estimation

by saying, whoa.

CrossFit needs Hiller.

No, they don't.

They need to get out of their own

way.

Basically,

they need to quit shooting themselves in

the foot.

Or Hiller's going to take views away from

everybody else.

No, he's not.

Be better at your job if that's what

you consider your job to be.

It's stupid to think that just because

he's going to go on his own platform,

are you going to just stop watching with

the stuff you were watching and just be

on his?

There's nine videos on there right now.

Or eleven, whatever it was.

It's not a whole lot.

You're just going to spend your time.

It would take three hours to watch

everything that's on TV right now.

And he's going to put some more stuff

back on and he's got all his raw

footage and maybe he'll do it again.

Maybe he won't.

Maybe he'll just continue making new ones

from there.

But that is such a stupid way to

look at stuff that he's just going to

take stuff away from other people.

No, he's not.

I mean,

there's a lot of cool things about what

he's doing.

There is no algorithm.

You just go look at what you want

instead of being told this is what you

should watch.

It has a dislike button so you can

give feedback on the videos.

It's got a report button that reports

directly to Andrew.

That's my favorite thing he says.

Who does the report thing go to?

Me.

The thing that got me was...

intrigued is having creator contests with

a leaderboard and the top performing

creators could apply to be a paid creator

on the channel absolutely like that is a

that is a concept that I think is

pretty cool absolutely

Because the more diverse creators we get

out in there with some spotlight,

the better it is for the fitness industry

as a whole.

Sure.

um jacqueline's talking about censorship i

think that's what i think that's what

hillary's trying to avoid by creating his

own thing yeah it really reduces the

ability for people to censor him well if

it's your own platform you can say

whatever the hell you want now you're

talking legal things right now

that's the only thing he would be

restricted by right i mean within the

balance of free speech you can say

whatever the heck you want it's on your

platform you can do literally like this is

not your this is your platform but it's

not your platform right we still have to

go within the in the in the the

broad guidelines that is youtube right

like this is not my platform this is

stream yards platform this is youtube's

platform right

This is our show.

Unless they take it hostage too, which...

Unless CBS comes back by.

I'm not going to let that go.

Just not.

Yeah,

CBS giving me a copyright strike was wild.

It wasn't even a strike.

They just said like, we can use it.

We just can't monetize it.

This is not going to monetize it,

which is...

on it.

There goes that three dollars out the

window.

You know,

every time I do yay sports with the

Glintons,

I just know the next day we're getting

a copyright strike.

Oh, God, yeah.

I shouldn't call it a strike.

We get a copyright notice.

You cannot monetize this episode.

Right, because you did XYZ.

Yeah.

You talked about sports,

you son of a bitch.

It's not what we talk about.

It's what

what we show it's whatever clip yeah

whatever clip you pull up geez it's just

wild but um you know what the main

thing is though is that you get knocked

down you do that again man i'm gonna

drive down to freaking louisiana every

time i get that song out of my

head you send me a clip with it

on the soundtrack i am literally dude i

am much bigger than you

And when we see and meet you in

person again,

I may kick the shit out of you.

Look, the one I sent this morning,

the series of various memes or whatever,

That was completely unprompted.

That just showed up.

And I was like, holy.

It shows up because you keep saving them

and sending them to me.

I didn't save that one.

That was a brand new post.

Oh, my word.

God, that was good.

Hold up, man.

The IG algorithm is going, man,

this dude must love Chumbawamba.

Clearly, he loves Chumbawamba.

And so they're just sending you more and

more Chumbawamba shit.

Hold up for a second.

Meg,

what exactly is going on that you're going

to have to show to yourself tomorrow?

What is so important that Meg needs to

get on and fly solo?

I am legitimately confused.

There actually is something important.

Tomorrow is fight for the fittest.

Oh, little G is competing tomorrow.

Yes.

Come on, man.

You're like,

I'm not even in the group chat.

And I know I am in a group

chat.

Um, I sent little G some money, um,

uh, for support.

Yeah, dude, I forgot about that.

Shows who's the bigger friend.

It does.

I'm terrible at shit like that.

If it's not written down, dude, somewhere,

I will one hundred percent forget about

it.

Meg, what time?

Actually, I'll text y'all.

Well, no,

say what time so people can go watch

it.

Yeah,

tomorrow on the Glinton Things podcast

channel.

At some point.

Little G is competing at Fight for the

Fittest.

Yes.

He was raising money for

Breast cancer awareness, maybe?

Let's go with that.

And so he is doing the workout.

Colleen will be his judge.

And they are filming it.

And it will be live on their channel.

Yeah,

they said he's been wearing himself out

practicing and just training and getting

ready for it.

It's going to be awesome.

Yeah, it was for breast cancer.

And he's raised seven hundred dollars

already.

Or as Meg says, the tatas.

Yeah.

She's a woman of culture.

She probably got a black shirt on today.

She may or may not have showered.

We're not real sure.

Yeah.

You know how the red shirts bring life

to you,

teaching you CrossFit and all the

methodology?

Meg is starting the black shirts to steal

all that away.

It's funny you mention that, dude.

I'm in my...

she's like the dementors from harry potter

i am i am doing the online portion

of my hybrid l-two right now so like

it's been me and chuck carswell and

everybody in the video's got a red shirt

on it's wild to watch it's actually it's

actually pretty pretty impressive it's

it's uh it's fun stuff yeah retired save

second base absolutely

When I was a teenager,

the bases confused me a lot, man.

I didn't really care about the bases.

One friend thought third base was this,

but it should be the first base,

and I got so confused.

It was like, who's on Abbott and Costello?

Abbott all day long.

Who's on first?

High school boy scoring.

Honestly,

I still don't really understand it.

I was just happy to see a girl.

The bases have rotted and are all mildewy,

and they're in the shed in the back.

They've been stepped on and beat up.

Ricky Henderson stole most of them.

It's fine, dude.

No big deal.

And Ricky would tell you that Ricky stole

them all.

Ricky would just like that.

Yep.

Anytime I'm scrolling through reels or

shorts on Instagram, on,

on YouTube or whatever.

And so I've passed by somebody like some

you know retired baseball great and they

say that he's telling a ricky henderson

story i stop immediately and check it out

because it's some of the funniest you've

ever heard in your entire life well after

watch am i on mute nope okay after

watching uh the glintons last night i

really wanted to talk about this shane

gillis thing on saturday night live

because i have some very strong feelings

you wouldn't wait to get to the editing

room to jazz me up i'm already jazzy

Lunch with the Clydesdale Cowboy in the

saddle.

Lunch with the Clydesdale Cowboy in the

saddle.

Talking to reps,

real life strength in the battle.

From the gym to the screen, yeah,

we cover it all.

Midday motivation every time we press

call.

Lunch with the Clydesdale Cowboy in the

heat.

CrossFit, movies, music, home repeat.

Half hour hustle, yeah,

we building that brand.

Grab a plate, shoot it,

now you're part of the fam.